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** OMT - Tottenham Hotspur v AC Milan **

glasgowspur said:
I think a lot of it is what's around him.
Like kane there's times when he will elevate those around him, and times when they drag him down to their level.
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Could be, and it's not only him that appears stunted and forced at times. We had a very brief spell with something resembling free flowing football, but quickly regressed to main. Then again, playing badly is a vicious and contagious disease. And when everything is about luck and not about plan, it's hard to analyze and draw reasonable conclusions. Even armchair ones. If Son had gotten the ball when he was totally alone on the left, chances are that he would have been the hero, finally gotten the weight off his shoulders - again, posts popping up about having faith and so on. But he didn't, and here we are.
 
SpurMeUp said:
At some things we are. Our passing is massively improved. Not all that long ago we couldn't escape a press. We can now hold the ball and work it through midfield. Part of our issue the past few games has been playing a possession game without the intricacy to make it count in the final third. Progress isn't linear either, you have ups and downs. Injuries etc.
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Despite what people think, in general we have a good group of players. Yes, we can hold possession, yes we can keep the opposition in front of us for long periods.

The problem is the tempo and predictability of it, and the fact that is must be obvious that this is the tempo we train at, zero chance we play high tempo training and suddenly dial it back in a match.

A brave manager would have figured out how to play a back line without Perisic today (Royal at RCB?), a brave manager would have played Richi from the start (his press and energy helps), a brave manager would not have bothered to bring in Sanchez with sub 10 minutes to go chasing a game. We don't have a brave manager but expect a brave team?
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
I'm going to pull back emotionally from this club for now. Like an idiot I tuned in, when earlier I had decided not to watch, knowing what the result would be. I'm sick to the back teeth with being frustrated and ultimately angry as a result of watching Spurs. You go to bed angry and then don't get a good night's sleep and then have to face work the next day. Not good for your mental health.
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Likewise, bored and frustrated with it

My old man just had a dementia diagnosis and I also have a good job prospect coming up Friday.

Seasons pretty much dead and not bothered after tonight, who thing is a turgid mess

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Raziel said:
Despite what people think, in general we have a good group of players. Yes, we can hold possession, yes we can keep the opposition in front of us for long periods.

The problem is the tempo and predictability of it, and the fact that is must be obvious that this is the tempo we train at, zero chance we play high tempo training and suddenly dial it back in a match.

A brave manager would have figured out how to play a back line without Perisic today (Royal at RCB?), a brave manager would have played Richi from the start (his press and energy helps), a brave manager would not have bothered to bring in Sanchez with sub 10 minutes to go chasing a game. We don't have a brave manager but expect a brave team?
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Not sure this crunch game was the time to experiment with new player positions. All for Royal playing RCB (since last season). Perisic has quality. He has assists and a good cross. In hindsight yes he was woeful. Danjuma would have offered some pace and penetration at least.

putting on Sanchez was the right thing to do. We kept in the game and created Kanes headed chance. Just stopping them from scoring a second on numerous occasions.
 
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Grays_1890 said:
Likewise, bored and frustrated with it

My old man just had a dementia diagnosis and I also have a good job prospect coming up Friday.

Seasons pretty much dead and not bothered after tonight, who thing is a turgid mess

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Sorry to hear about that, my mother had demetia. It's tough.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Not sure this crunch game was the time to experiment. All for Royal playing RCB (since last season). Perisic has quality. He has assists and a good cross. In hindsight yes he was woeful. Danjuma would have offered some pace and one iteration at least.

putting on Sanchez was the right thing to do. We kept in the game and created Kanes headed chance. Just stopping them for scoring a second on numerous occasions.
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You got exactly what was expected from Perisic based on months of similar performances

No, it wasn't re Sanchez, we were chasing two goals, every single fudging person in the stadium knew what you were going to get if you brought Sanchez on .. except Conte

Play an extra man in midfield, start Son on bench, lots of options that weren't "experimentation", what Conte did is what he always does, predictable ...
 
Finney Is Back said:
Because that involves investing lots of money into a recruitment structure which our club have been loathe to do.
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We probably spent more on the charlatans like that Comolli and the Italian fella with grey hair that we allowed to spank a shed load of money, his name escapes me

For all my defence of the board, Levys biggest weakness is he gets sexed up by smarmy talkers with high profiles thats how Jose did a job on him too

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Which of our players has come out and said "At the end of the day it's a tough loss and hard to take but we will learn and grow from it dust ourselves off and finish the season strong. There's plenty left to play for and we'll give it our all.'
 
seaside spur said:
Why can't we just do what Brighton do ?
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We did, and we did it better than them when we were in their position and before we outgrew that stage (which they won't ever do). The BMJ on era was exactly that, young promising players, promising manager, selling top players on (Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale)

We still buy very good young players (Gil, Sarr, Deki, Spence), we just can't afford to play them as much and our "proven winner" managers don't do brick to develop them. The model is also harder now because you only have EPL market to sell on to, everyone else is broke as fudge.
 
Raziel said:
We did, and we did it better than them when we were in their position and before we outgrew that stage (which they won't ever do). The BMJ on era was exactly that, young promising players, promising manager, selling top players on (Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale)

We still buy very good young players (Gil, Sarr, Deki, Spence), we just can't afford to play them as much and our "proven winner" managers don't do brick to develop them. The model is also harder now because you only have EPL market to sell on to, everyone else is broke as fudge.
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Brighton have never, ever been anywhere near as big a club as THFC.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Brighton have never, ever been anywhere near as big a club as THFC.
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Nobody said that ..

The ask was clearly around why we don't buy young promising players and upcoming managers and push beyond our weight (my interpretation of ask)

Which is exactly what the FA/BMJ era -> Poch did, when you are competing for CL spots you can't base your whole strategy on promising, you have to buy more proven quality.
 
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