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***OMT***Tottenham Hotspur FC v Woolwich Wanckers

TIMS TEAMTALK......

only joking lads....:ross:

Feck me where do I begin here....guys...guys I am going to follow Steffs lead and talk with my willy wonka rather than my head!

Lets turn up in the coach and walk out like the guys from reservoir dogs, if that stupid feckin dinosau r tries to come up to our manager/players then let let Fazio do what Jim Carrey did at the end of Ace Ventura Pet Detective and beat the sh*t out of the mascot, before the players proceed to the away dressing room lets take off our massive headphones and find the largest and dirtiest slice of pizza the Death Star cafe has to offer then lets proceed to throw it into the child snatchers face! In the Dressing room lets place a bottle of whiskey on the floor and let every player take a swig, let every player have a nipple cripple from Steffan Freund until they scream out in pain, make sure we make so much noise that the other lots boys think they are taking on deranged savages!

Faces set in stone, DO NOT BEFRIEND THE FU**ERS IN THE TUNNEL! THAT GOES TO YOU ADE! walk out onto that pitch the way Cantona celebrated his chip vs Sunderland! Look at the Arsenal fans with contempt....they barely deserve that! FIGHT for every single inch, play like its your last time playing! blood and thunder, heart and passion, dare and you will do!

ARSENE WENGER, PIERS MORGAN, IAN WRIGHT, WOJICECH YOU HAVE A STUPID FACE WE ALL WANT TO HIT! TO ALL GOONERS! YOU MAY GIVE OUR BOYS ONE HELL OF A BEATING, BUT YOU WILL STILL BE CUNVTS! OH AND YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

COME ON GG! COYS! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WOOF!

:ross: Spot on.

Nigeyman or Steff to do the team talk.
 
Within 20 minutes played, one or more of the following will have happened:

**** score from a wonder strike from a player never previously capable of such goals.

**** score from an incredibly soft penalty.

**** score a ridiculously fluky goal from an offside position.

We are denied a goalscoring opportunity after a huge mistake from the ref/linesman.

We go one man down from a very harsh red card/**** player diving.

An **** player gets away from a horror tackle with a yellow card, leaving one of our players injured.

Agreed - why always us!
 
Timeline of GG on Saturday:


4:45 - decent lineup, glad to see Chiriches not starting, hope Mason comes off the bench.
5:30 - COYS!!!
5:45- We're playing well here, Lamela has the beating of Monreal
6:00 - HOW HAS ADE MISSED THAT!!?
6:02 - **** off Kaboul, ****ing **** (Welbeck scores)
6:17 - We're not doing too bad, still in this, lets get an early goal.. (1-0 HT)
6:34 - ****ing ****, bollox.. (Welbeck scores his second)
6:45 - Has to be a penalty surely? (Rose dives over a clumsy Chambers challenge, not given)
6:47 - Absolute bollox, Poch out (Ozil gets the third)
7:00 - A little late now, cluless **** (Poch brings on Mason, Soldado and Kane)
7:10 - great free kick that! (Eriksen pulls one back late on)
7:18 - Well that was ****, no fight, no heart, if I was in charge we'd have won or atleast shown some fight, its all the managers fault (Arsenal win 3-1)
 
Timeline of GG on Saturday:


4:45 - decent lineup, glad to see Chiriches not starting, hope Mason comes off the bench.
5:30 - COYS!!!
5:45- We're playing well here, Lamela has the beating of Monreal
6:00 - HOW HAS ADE MISSED THAT!!?
6:02 - **** off Kaboul, ****ing **** (Welbeck scores)
6:17 - We're not doing too bad, still in this, lets get an early goal.. (1-0 HT)
6:34 - ****ing ****, bollox.. (Welbeck scores his second)
6:45 - Has to be a penalty surely? (Rose dives over a clumsy Chambers challenge, not given)
6:47 - Absolute bollox, Poch out (Ozil gets the third)
7:00 - A little late now, cluless **** (Poch brings on Mason, Soldado and Kane)
7:10 - great free kick that! (Eriksen pulls one back late on)
7:18 - Well that was ****, no fight, no heart, if I was in charge we'd have won or atleast shown some fight, its all the managers fault (Arsenal win 3-1)
Bah, **** that:

5.30 COYS
6.17 8-0 up at half time, didn't see that coming, nice double-hattrick Bobby.
7.05 Wil**** sent off "for being a ****", didn't know that was a rule now but well deserved.
7.18 Took our foot off the pedal a bit, still 12-0's a decent result.
7.19 Wenger burnt at the stake.
 
In truth we've already lost this game due to our player's mentality.

It is unwinnable because if we go a goal behind, our heads drop and we get battered.
Or if we go a goal ahead, we try to hold onto it and yield the momentum and wait to get beaten.

Of course I hope we win and something strange happens, but you know they have more mental steel, more drive and will score one way or another whilst we look bewildered and feel sorry for ourselves.
 
No alcohol on sale to Spurs fans in the ground tomorrow, £64 price too, they really **** us over on and off the pitch
 
:ross: Spot on.

Nigeyman or Steff to do the team talk.

Agreed, excellent post thfcsteff and night man..

The point that I was in most agreement with was 'no being friendly in the tunnel!' I hate that so much, they're our arch nemesis, our bitter rival, our most hated of foes..

No hand shaking, no laughing, I want cold hard focus, utter commitment and fierce aggression that stays within the boundaries of sanity.

If our players can give us that, then we're at least in with a shot.

**** I want this so badly.
 
I expect us to lose, I expect myself and maybe some others to come on and repeat how ENIC are letting us down, and I expect some others to come on and defend ENIC, etc, etc. :)
 
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He's pretty much bang on the money. Yet still we'll see on here poster after poster defending the state ENIC have left us in. That's their prerogative of course.
To me us being a poor third in the London heirarchy is a matter of embarrassment and shame. I've supported the club for well over 50 years, never have we been so low in the London pecking order. Even when we got relegated we still bounced back within four years to be the 2nd top London club, arguably the best.
 
Seriously, what chance do we have? They have genius in charge, an man so insightful he can see things no one else could come up with in their wildest dreams:

Arsène Wenger says Spurs need new stadium to keep up with Arsenal

Arsène Wenger has told Tottenham they need a new stadium if they are to have any chance of competing with Arsenal and the rest of the Premier League’s top four.

“You cannot turn down 15,000 or 20,000 [fans] every week. If your competitors have more financial power than you, at some stage, you have to make a decision. If you stay in a smaller stadium it’s difficult.”

ENIC Out! They have been here for more than a decade and they couldn't see the blindingly obvious. Not even Wenger didn't see it.
 
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Arsenal host Tottenham Hotspur at the Emirates Stadium on Saturday 27th September 2014 (KO 17:30) in the 6th match of the 2014-15 Premier League season.

Arsenal come into the game in 4th place in the Table on 9 points with Spurs in 9th on 7 points. This will be the 255th time the two teams have met.

Spurs v Arsenal is now one of the great rivalries in World Football but the fixture had very different beginings back in November 1887 when the clubs first met in a friendly played on Tottenham Marshes. Arsenal, then called Royal Arsenal, had been formed just a year earlier as Dial Square and were essentially the works team for the munitions factory situated in Woolwich, Kent, while Spurs who had been formed some five years earlier in 1882 still had many of the youngsters who founded the club playing for them. Spurs won that first encounter 2-1, although the game was cut short by 15 minutes, due to poor light conditions because of the Arsenal team getting lost and turning-up late for the start.

Seven more friendlies were played between the two clubs from 1888 to 1896 with Spurs winning four and Arsenal winning three before their first competitive match in March 1899. By this time, Arsenal were re-named Woolwich Arsenal and the clubs met in the United League with the Gunners winning 2-1 at the Manor Ground in Plumstead while Spurs won the return match 3-2 at Northumberland Park.

Two matches were played within the same week in April 1900 in the Southern District Combination League with Spurs winning 4-2 at White Hart Lane which was followed by a 2-1 win to Arsenal at Plumstead in a game abandoned after 75 minutes due to "bad language". History doesn't provide the answer as to who was the guilty party! From 1901 to 1920, the clubs met in various minor competitions, friendlies and matches played during the First World War.

Tottenham Hotspur joined the Football League in season 1908-09 and won promotion to the First Division on their first attempt. The following season they played Arsenal in December 1909 and lost 0-1 at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, while the reverse fixture at White Hart Lane ended in a 1-1 draw with John Curtis scoring Spurs' first League goal against the Gunners.

The teams met for three more seasons before Arsenal's relegation at the end of the 1912-13 season with Spurs winning three matches, Arsenal winning two and one game drawn.

September 1913 proved to be a hugely important date in the history of both clubs as Arsenal controversially moved from south of the River Thames into the territory reserved for Tottenham Hotspur and Clapton (later Leyton) Orient, in clear violation of the rules and regulations governing such relocations as stipulated by the Football League. Despite bitter protests, Arsenal's move to Highbury (more correctly called Arsenal Stadium) was allowed.

White Hart Lane was requisitioned by the Army during WWI, so Spurs played many of their wartime matches at Highbury.

When League football resumed after the war in 1919, it was decided to once again expand the First Division from 20 teams to 22. The normal way of doing this had always been to add the top two clubs from the Second Division to those who were already in the First Division. However, there were complications arising from allegations of match-fixing from Liverpool and Manchester United during the final matches of the last season played before the League was suspended and it was felt that they would forfit their Top Flight status as a result.

From nowhere, Arsenal, who had finished sixth (later corrected to fifth) in the Second Division before the war were 'elected' to take Tottenham Hotspur's place in the First Division. Allegations of bribery persist to this day and Henry Norris (Arsenal's Chairman) was later given a lifetime ban from football from the Football League for underhand financial activities.

Spurs and Arsenal played their first Football League match after World War One in the First Division in January 1921 with Spurs winning 2-1 at White Hart Lane while Arsenal won the return match at Highbury 3-2. All 150 League games played to date have taken place in the Top Flight of English football.

Highbury was taken over by the Army during the Second World War and Spurs returned the favour by allowing Arsenal to play their wartime matches at White Hart Lane. Arsenal won the first FA Cup meeting between the two teams 3-0 in the 3rd Round in January 1949. The clubs have played five FA Cup matches to date with Spurs winning two and Arsenal winning three.

The first Football League Cup match took place in November 1968 with Arsenal winning the first leg of the Semi-Final 1-0 at Highbury and Spurs drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane the following month. Of the 12 League Cup matches played so far, Spurs have won 3, Arsenal have won 6 and three games have been drawn.

Both Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in season 1992-93 and both clubs are among the seven (Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea, Manchester United and Aston Villa are the other five) who have been ever-present during the 21 seasons of the competition.

Arsenal went two goals ahead by halftime in the 2010-11 fixture at the Emirates in November through Samir Nasri and Marouane Chamakh but Spurs came back strongly with goals from Gareth Bale, Rafael van der Vaart (penalty) and Younes Kaboul to secure a 3-2 win.

The match at White Hart Lane in April 2011 was a six goal thriller with honours even. Theo Walcott and Rafael van der Vaart scored goals within the first 10 minutes before Samir Nasri put the Gunners 2-1 up after 12 minutes. Arsenal went further ahead with a Robin van Persie goal on 40 minutes but Tom Huddlestone made it 2-3 by halftime. Van der Vaart scored the only goal in the second half from the penalty spot.

The fixture at White Hart Lane in October 2011 was won by Spurs 2-1 with goals from Rafael van der Vaart and Kyle Walker with Aaron Ramsey scoring for Arsenal. The Gunners won their home match in February 2012 5-2. Louis Saha had put Spurs ahead after 4 minutes and an Emmanuel Adebayor penalty put Tottenham further ahead after 34 minutes. But Arsenal pulled two goals back before half-time through Bacary Sagna and Robin van Persie. Tomas Rosicky put Arsenal in front just after the break and the rout was completed with a brace from Theo Walcott.

During the 2012 summer transfer window, Spurs signed former Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor from Emirates Marketing Project after having spent a season on loan.

The match on 17th November at the Emirates resulted in a 5-2 win for Arsenal. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs ahead after 10 minutes but was sent-off eight minutes later for a rash tackle on Santi Cazorla. Arsenal then scored three times to make it 3-1 at halftime - Per Mertesacker, Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud grabbing the goals. Santi Cazorla put Arsenal further ahead on the hour mark but Gareth Bale pulled one back for Spurs before Theo Walcott scored the fifth for Arsenal just before the final whistle.

Spurs won the match at the Lane in March 2013 2-1 with Gareth Bale scoring after 37 minutes and Aaron Lennon adding a second two minutes later. Per Mertesacker pulled a goal back for Arsenal six minutes into the second half.

Olivier Giroud scored in the 23rd minute to give Arsenal the points in the September 2013 Premier League game at the Emirates. Arsenal ran-out 2-0 winners in the FA Cup 3rd Round match played at the Emirates in January 2014 with Santi Cazorla & Tomas Rosicky scoring a goal each. The 2013-14 League game at the Lane in May 2014 finished in a 1-0 win to Arsenal after Tomas Rosicky scored in the second minute.

As far as Football League / Premier League matches go, three player have both scored nine goals for Spurs against Arsenal - Billy Minter and Bobby Smith.

Three Arsenal players have each scored eight goals against Spurs - Robert Pires, Emmanuel Adebayor and Alan Smith.

There have been three hat-tricks scored during North London Derbies - Terry Dyson for Spurs and Ted Drake & Alan Sunderland for Arsenal.

Jimmy Robertson & Emmanuel Adebayor are the only two players to score for both Spurs & Arsenal in a North London Derby.

Arsenal's David O'Leary has played in the most North London Derbies (35) while both Gary Mabbutt & Steve Perryman played 31 games with Spurs.

Overall, Spurs have won 91 of the 254 matches played against Arsenal with the Gunners winning 104 and 59 matches drawn.


Emmanuel Adebayor
Clive Allen
Charlie Ambler
Bob Arber (Arsenal player, Spurs reserves manager)
David Bentley
David Black
Anton Blackwood
Jimmy Brain
Laurie Brown
Walter Bugg
Lycurgus Burrows
Sol Campbell
Herbert Chapman (Spurs player, Arsenal manager)
Damien Comolli (Director of Football at both clubs)
Freddie Cox
James Delvin
Wilf Dixon (Spurs assistant manager, Arsenal trainer)
Jack Eggett
Tom Fitchie
Theo Foley (Arsenal assistant manager, Spurs reserves manager)
William Gallas
George Graham (Arsenal player, manager of both clubs)
Vic Groves
Tom Hatfield
Stewart Houston (Assistant manager at both clubs)
Joe Hulme (Arsenal player, Spurs manager)
George Hunt
David Jenkins
Pat Jennings
Bill Julian
Peter Kyle
Neil Lacy
Bill Lane (Spurs player, Arsenal scout)
Peter McWilliam (Spurs manager, Arsenal scout)
Tom Meade
Billy Minter
Terry Naylor
Terry Neill (Arsenal player, manager of both clubs)
Jamie O'Hara
Tom O'Shea
George Payne
Ron Piper
Tom Pratt
Rohan Ricketts
Jimmy Robertson
Andrew Swan
Walter Thomas
Erik Thorstvedt
Steve Walford
Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Arsenal coach)
Charlie Williams
Willie Young

 
Seriously, what chance do we have? They have genius in charge, an man so insightful he can see things no one else could come up with in their wildest dreams:



ENIC Out! They have been here for more than a decade and they couldn't see the blindingly obvious. Not even Wenger didn't see it.

Agreed. Imagine how much better than them we'd be if we could spend £50 million a year more in wages than them - which is roughly what they do to us. Scum.
 
Agreed. Imagine how much better than them we'd be if we could spend £50 million a year more in wages than them - which is roughly what they do to us. Scum.

£50m more, their wage bill is like £190m is ours £140m I somewhat doubt that
 
I think there are certain fundamentals needed for a result tomorrow:

1. Workrate and the ability to break with pace - that means Lennon has to play and Chadli doesn't.
2. Strength and urgency in the middle to try and suffocate them - that means, for all his faults, Dembele's muscle, and Bentaleb's pro-activity.
3. A presence up front, to make the most of any of the ball we do get - that means, for all his faults, Adebayor plays.
4. Concentration and nous at the back - they move the ball quickly, we need to be switched on - that means, for all their faults, Vertonghen and Naughton (as opposed to Chiriches and Kaboul as a pair and Dier at RB).

I'd like to, therefore, see: Lloris, Naughton, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Davies, Dembele, Bentaleb, Lennon, Lamela, Eriksen, Adebayor.

The only alternative would be to move Capoue, for an extra body in midfield, and take out Lamela or Eriksen.
 
4-3 win at 175-1 is too good to pass up for a tenner.Still to get back on a plus 2 Soldado,1 Paulinho, 1 Fazio. YEEHAAAAW!
 
4-3 win at 175-1 is too good to pass up for a tenner.Still to get back on a plus 2 Soldado,1 Paulinho, 1 Fazio. YEEHAAAAW!

There is a reason why its 175-1, I wouldnt say its too good to pass up but I really do admire your optimism hahah
 
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