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OMT Spurs vs Geordies 7.30 Tuesday 10th Feb

Bullet said:
The important thing to remember, is that anyone can score a goal.

E.g. Today Thomas Soucek made a clever run into the box, the ball was played low and hard across to him, and he neatly put it through Lammen's legs... and there is no way in hell that you lot would suggest Thomas Soucek as some sort of goalscoring solution for Spurs.
What I am saying is, anyone can score, and we keep seeing goals from the centre backs and Palhinha and Gray and still we make goalscoring look almost impossible, like some impossible task.

The way we train our forwards/dribblers/attackers/strikers must be lacking, they make goalscoring seem impossible e.g. if they can sprint at 100mph and cut back at 97 degrees and jink inside and nutmeg 2 players and curl a perfect shot it might perhaps go in, yet other teams just seem to get men forwards and bundle the ball in.

And that is what Thomas Frank should be good at, get men in the right positions and bundle it in off someone's elbow. But no, we are utterly terrible at football.
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To do that you first have to get the ball forward and then players forward.
 
I don’t think it’s fair to blame the fans. I’ve been to most of the home games this season and while it would be a massive stretch to say that the atmosphere has been good, for the most part none of the toxicity has boiled over while the ball has been in play. If anything, I think the last couple have had pretty good support (I wasn’t there tonight). The football has been so incredibly awful though.

At this point we have got to change manager. I get the whole ‘well who do we get argument’ but quite honestly, we get battered every week, home and away, so it doesn’t really matter who we get. We could dig up the corpse of Jimmy Saville and stick him in the dugout and he’d be more inspiring than what we have at the moment, and he couldn’t do worse than lose every game. Something has to change. But I don’t think it will.
 
braineclipse said:
The difference is they could attack. And they wanted to attack.

At 0-0 we essentially played as if we were playing for a draw.

Once we took the handbrake off and tried getting forward we played alright I thought. Shame it again takes us going behind to start trying to play.
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You thought they were good in attack, really. They made it hard to score. That’s all that was good about them imo. They are also missing players thru injury
 
Idk why we didn’t recall Moore. Fresh legs after 70-80 mins could help. If Odobert is out selling Johnson and then not recalling Moore looks extremely amateur from a supposedly professional club.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Idk why we didn’t recall Moore. Fresh legs after 70-80 mins could help. If Odobert is out selling Johnson and then not recalling Moore looks extremely amateur from a supposedly professional club.
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Might not be a recall clause in his loan. Same with Vuskovic. We could say fudge that and negotiate a recall anyway, but then a) who would trust us to loan them a player in future? And b) why would Moore/Vuskovic trust us to manage their development?

Think with the Jan business, the club gambled that Frank would improve and Gallagher would be enough to get through the season. Think they didn't expect much from Souza, hence they tried for Robertson, which fell through.

It's a gamble made by a group of people absolutely convinced they won't get relegated. Which is worrisome, because those are typically the sorts of clubs that do - Randy Lerner's Aston Villa were the epitome of this.
 
Bullet said:
The important thing to remember, is that anyone can score a goal.

E.g. Today Thomas Soucek made a clever run into the box, the ball was played low and hard across to him, and he neatly put it through Lammen's legs... and there is no way in hell that you lot would suggest Thomas Soucek as some sort of goalscoring solution for Spurs.
What I am saying is, anyone can score, and we keep seeing goals from the centre backs and Palhinha and Gray and still we make goalscoring look almost impossible, like some impossible task.

The way we train our forwards/dribblers/attackers/strikers must be lacking, they make goalscoring seem impossible e.g. if they can sprint at 100mph and cut back at 97 degrees and jink inside and nutmeg 2 players and curl a perfect shot it might perhaps go in, yet other teams just seem to get men forwards and bundle the ball in.

And that is what Thomas Frank should be good at, get men in the right positions and bundle it in off someone's elbow. But no, we are utterly terrible at football.
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In fairness I have been saying this for most of the season...
 
I cannot remember a flatter, and indeed emptier, time at the stadium.
As for the game...I mean, look. It's been said by some for a long time; we are not coached very well. He is a good coach for a certain level of team and more importantly, club.

This has always been a crazy club with wild parameters which eats even the likes of Mourinho and Conte alive; seriously, Frank has never really stood a chance unless HE could 'scale up'. It has been clear he cannot, albeit I feel sorry for him too. However he can not scale up. Surviving a relegation battle would not be a success, it would be a huge relief.

I was thinking about whether I'd seen a more poorly coached side. Gross era? Maybe Glenn in the Toda years? Hmmmm. Neither were as brick as this. Decent enough players getting the ball with absolutely nothing on ahead of them but plenty to the sides and behind, because that's what we do, go to the sides, try and get up the wing and bang in crosses. Yeah, this is a squad who could push for Europa places at least, they are not all 'brick' or any of that. What they currently are, is a squad who has been shorn of all confidence and given no system of attacking play beyond set-pieces. Not -good enough.

A word of warning for those who want him gone by morning; I seriously do not see it happening. Indeed, I would be surprised if they made a chance. I think they're petrified, scared brickless, and completely unable to fully fathom either what's going on or the fact that leadership requires cajones and firm-hand decision making.
Do you think Vinai and Lange look like those people?

We had a chance at the start of January to change the bathwater and do some business in the window.
We passed.

The last time I remember thinking we could go down was April 1994.
We went to Oldham away in the first week of May and saved ourselves wth a 2-0 win. Samways scored the first.
Who is going to be our Samways now?
Do we have one?
 
Unfortunately for us, we are ѕhit. The ground was virtually silent for what felt like long stretches tonight. Is it actually sinking in, finally?
 
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