OMT Spurs - Fulham

[90291Spur]

So basically when we don't play to the manager's tactics we are better.... That's rather worrying don't you think?

But Jose keeps bleating on that the playas don’t play as instructed. Yet he can’t change the way they play. Odd.

 

[90291Spur]

Yip. It’s another season we’ll look back at a couple of years from now and wonder why we couldn’t win it.

And these winnable seasons are rare.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

This is why it's all the more annoying - league is wide open and we're throwing away points in games that we should be winning, not because we're unlucky or not playing well but because we decide to let our opponents have the ball and attack us.

When tactics are costing you points you have to question the manager

Actually our luck hasn’t helped in some games
We have the second highest amount of shots against the woodwork and I believe some of them going in would have gained us another 4 points at least
I mean compare that to united last night... average shot, deflects in... in an poor game where up to 80 mins they had 1 brick on target
But if you don’t attack you don’t get the luck

 

[Bedfordspurs]

But Jose keeps bleating on that the playas don’t play as instructed. Yet he can’t change the way they play. Odd.

Maybe it’s the players he inherited that can’t get it...
maybe they really as that stupid or incapable

 

[Finney Is Back]

But Jose keeps bleating on that the playas don’t play as instructed. Yet he can’t change the way they play. Odd.

Even more odd that he bleats about it when he's not up on the sideline trying to change it or making any substitutions to try to change it.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Actually our luck hasn’t helped in some games
We have the second highest amount of shots against the woodwork and I believe some of them going in would have gained us another 4 points at least
I mean compare that to united last night... average shot, deflects in... in an poor game where up to 80 mins they had 1 brick on target
But if you don’t attack you don’t get the luck

A shot against the Woodwork is still a shot off target. It is worse than a shot on target that the keeper saves.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Maybe it’s the players he inherited that can’t get it...
maybe they really as that stupid or incapable

Or maybe they are playing the way that Jose wants them to play (which the lack of subs and lack of him on the sideline shouting would seem to indicate).

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Or maybe they are playing the way that Jose wants them to play (which the lack of subs and lack of him on the sideline shouting would seem to indicate).

Or maybe he thinks his subs aren’t at the level he wants and can’t execute his plans either...
Who knows

 

[Bedfordspurs]

A shot against the Woodwork is still a shot off target. It is worse than a shot on target that the keeper saves.

Very true
But a huge deflection is massively lucky too
And hitting the list can be fine margins
I mean today we hit the post from a miss hit

 

[Finney Is Back]

Or maybe he thinks his subs aren’t at the level he wants and can’t execute his plans either...
Who knows

Which of the two do you think is more likely?

If you have players on the pitch not playing to your plan then do you:

a) just leave them on anyway for bricks and giggles.

b) replace one (or more of them) for a player who 'might' play to instruction?

 

[LincsSpur]

I think Mou is trolling us now.
He sits there watching us fail and shrink and cower and shirk and walk and slide backwards and thinks "this is normal" like that meme of a dog in a burning house.

He could have changed something; where players were playing, how they were playing, their motivation, brought on an extra CB or extra forward or changed shape or ANYTHING but we just sat and watched our house burn down for 75 minutes and then had 15 minutes to try and build a new one.

Ndombele and Reguilon were MotM. Sissoko needs to be culled.

So Harry and Sonny missing a hatful of easy chances is on the manager?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Which of the two do you think is more likely?

I’d take a look at the repeat offenders first and foremost and see how and why we end up there

 

[billyiddo]

Yip. It’s another season we’ll look back at a couple of years from now and wonder why we couldn’t win it.

On a ppg basis currently it'll require less points than the year Leicester won it i read somewhere

 

[Finney Is Back]

I’d take a look at the repeat offenders first and foremost and see how and why we end up there

So.....

The two centre halves perhaps?.... after all they set the line of the team.

Jose has taken players off early on multiple occasions because he feels they are not carrying out his instructions and yet he constantly leaves on the players who are dropping deeper and deeper, it only adds up when you deduce that it is him who is instructing these tactics.

 

[billyiddo]

Completely. Game was there to be won tonight. At home to a team in the bottom 3. Lots of our players hadnt played at the weekend; they'd played 120 mins. We end up picking a back 4 and 3 CMs, none of whom are attacking. Then to make it worse, we dont change things after say, an hour, when its clearly not working

I forgot we'd rested players the weekend as well

fudging hell

 

[Bishop]

I’d take a look at the repeat offenders first and foremost and see how and why we end up there

He selects the repeat offenders.

Jose has restructured a good base here but he was actually the problem today. The lineup was conservative and unambitious, did the result and the manner of it surprise you in anyway?

 

[Baleforce]

If the players haven't learned their assignment packages before the game asking them to shift to a different one from the dugout will likely make things worse.

Jose has always been about tactical preparation, maybe he need's to work the players harder in the classroom rather than on the training pitch.

 

[billyiddo]

Actually our luck hasn’t helped in some games
We have the second highest amount of shots against the woodwork and I believe some of them going in would have gained us another 4 points at least
I mean compare that to united last night... average shot, deflects in... in an poor game where up to 80 mins they had 1 brick on target
But if you don’t attack you don’t get the luck

Missing the target isn't luck

 

[Finney Is Back]

So Harry and Sonny missing a hatful of easy chances is on the manager?

Playing a whole second half without actually trying to attack (until the opposition equalise) is certainly on the manager yes. If you don't want your team playing deep and defensive then either get up on the sideline and instruct a change or make a fcuking substitution to change the shape!

 

[Baleforce]

I forgot we'd rested players the weekend as well

fudging hell

the bloke who played in our 10 shirt tonight was the guy in the 9 for Marine on Sunday though right?