You'll need to explain that one to me....
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Next Manager?
- Thread starter StephenH
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You'll need to explain that one to me....
milo
Jack L. Jones
He had a self portrait in his flat
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
That’s why he’ll stay at Leicester until one comes knocking....
90sSpursBook
Erik Edman
Its as much about the type of manager as it is the individual.
I can see the logic in the Jose appointment; this was a squad with most of its players at their peak that needed a new message to get over that final hurdle. It wasn't the moment to bring someone in who would rip up the current squad and start completely afresh. I don't believe the club, players and the fans even were in the mental space for such a transformation. On and off the field Kane and Son were and are our biggest assets - i don't think they would have been enthused with another project manager who would have had a 3-4 year plan. Jose was and is about the here and now. He carries a lot of baggage with him which is evident on here - some are desperate for him to fail and every defeat is further evidence of his status as a busted flush and yesterdays man.
I do believe he was sold up the river somewhat - the squad was unbalanced and not in a good shape with many demotivated players wanting away. Then the Kane and Son injuries occurred and the global pandemic happened. There's really far too many variables to definitively suggest he's doomed to failure.
However, I believe Levy made the right type of appointment - perhaps Ancelotti would have been worth waiting a few weeks for but who knows? If Jose left tomorrow what keeps Kane and Son interested - I doubt at 27/28 they're willing to be part of a 3-4 year project and how upset would be to lose them?
As for the next manager - we're all romanced by the idea of a Pochettino style project appointment (perhaps it will be Poch himself) as we have fond memories of the incredible journey he took us on. I guess Jol was a similar ride back in 2004. But remember that this sort of appointment can go badly wrong - the AVB journey started ok but lost momentum to the extent it was hard to remember what the plan was in the first place. By nature this sort of appointment has an element of risk - you're going to be recruiting someone who probably hasn't had a job of this magnitude before.
Often its a case of the right person at the right moment - Harry Redknapp was a great example of this.
I can see the logic in the Jose appointment; this was a squad with most of its players at their peak that needed a new message to get over that final hurdle. It wasn't the moment to bring someone in who would rip up the current squad and start completely afresh. I don't believe the club, players and the fans even were in the mental space for such a transformation. On and off the field Kane and Son were and are our biggest assets - i don't think they would have been enthused with another project manager who would have had a 3-4 year plan. Jose was and is about the here and now. He carries a lot of baggage with him which is evident on here - some are desperate for him to fail and every defeat is further evidence of his status as a busted flush and yesterdays man.
I do believe he was sold up the river somewhat - the squad was unbalanced and not in a good shape with many demotivated players wanting away. Then the Kane and Son injuries occurred and the global pandemic happened. There's really far too many variables to definitively suggest he's doomed to failure.
However, I believe Levy made the right type of appointment - perhaps Ancelotti would have been worth waiting a few weeks for but who knows? If Jose left tomorrow what keeps Kane and Son interested - I doubt at 27/28 they're willing to be part of a 3-4 year project and how upset would be to lose them?
As for the next manager - we're all romanced by the idea of a Pochettino style project appointment (perhaps it will be Poch himself) as we have fond memories of the incredible journey he took us on. I guess Jol was a similar ride back in 2004. But remember that this sort of appointment can go badly wrong - the AVB journey started ok but lost momentum to the extent it was hard to remember what the plan was in the first place. By nature this sort of appointment has an element of risk - you're going to be recruiting someone who probably hasn't had a job of this magnitude before.
Often its a case of the right person at the right moment - Harry Redknapp was a great example of this.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Who is the manager at Atalanta? Does he speak English?
ok, bit odd but wouldnt hold that against him.
Rodgers or the Wolves guy seem like top candidates. Hassenhuttl is more of a punt, but Poch was somewhat similar. Naggelsmann another option.
Frankly I'd probably take any of those rather than Jose. Would enable me to be a bit more proud of Spurs and I don't see that we'd be less likely to win things with any of those.
We're rubbish to watch at the moment and an embarrassment
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Ancelotti is doing exactly the same at Everton by the way
Their so deep Pickford is playing centre back
milo
Jack L. Jones
Neither would I. He's a bit of a tit but good at his job.
Precisely. I'm not bothered what our manager does in his private live, provided its legal.
I'd much prefer Rodgers over any of our managers in the last 30 years bar Poch and maybe Jol. Jol was a hero but Rodgers possibly a better manager, or gets better results at least
StephenH
David Ginola
I wanted him instead of Poch. But now I just don't think Leicester would let him go! So he is not on my the realistic list now sadly.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Managers can leave
Their contract has minimal value as it’s just compensation for their contract
I don't think a project manager is the route we will go down next, i think we put that approach behind us when we moved on from Poch, if we're not giving him time after reaching the CL final then we're not giving anyone time. We're now on the manager merry go round and Mourinho lives by those rules as much as anyone - if you aren't doing the business in your second year you're skating on thin ice same as at any other top club.
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think that if Mourinho doesn't work out, we will go for a project manager. He's not going to leave this year and he rarely leaves a legacy, so we will need to rebuild from scratch.
Maybe project manager is the wrong term - we won't be appointing a manager from a mid table club with no CL experience, like with Poch, it will be a manager with a degree of pedigree at that level.
StephenH
David Ginola
I would love Levy to get him but I'm holding my breath
StephenH
David Ginola
funny that has not happened yet!
that was one of the few upsides to getting Mourinho !
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
We ain’t getting rid of kale anytime soon
StephenH
David Ginola
“kale”
milo
Jack L. Jones
I'd be cautious on Hasenhuttl - he relies almost exclusively on an extremely high-risk targeted press for his results, which may not be all that robust for us for a number of reasons -
1) Our players are miserably unfit and unsuited for that on a regular basis - many of these men were here when Poch was, and are either burned out or too lazy to go back to that high-octane style.
2) Hasenhuttl's press works great at hhe moment, when there are no fans around to moan after mistakes in the press allow opponents chances - what happens when they come back?
3) As we saw when Ndombele bodied half a dozen Soton players with one turn in our demolition against them last year, that one-trick pony of a press may not be all that wise against top sides with players able to evade it.
4) He's emblematic of a certain style of tactical thinking in vogue at present - the German style of high-octane gegenpress, with him, Klopp, Tuchel et al all in the league to push for it - but tactical cycles come and go, and I feel like the pandemic's effects on football finances, player fitness and the ability to build deep sides capable of sustaining pressing may put an early end to that in favour of more ball-retentive approaches.
The guy we have now is useless, more or less. He gets outthought by Klopp, plays Doherty at left-back, has no attacking plan - he's a bog average manager whose glories are seemingly long past.
But the next guy needs to be a combination of inspirational, potentially revolutionary and more brave than this guy.
The only one I can think of with those qualities is at PSG.
I think that you make an interesting point about German managers. I think that Mourinho will be with us for at least another 18 months. I think that you are right that the style of play could be found out or about to be found out by that point.