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New Stadium and Training Ground - Pg 104 Northumberland Park master plan
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Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
The current plans show that the pitch would be built upto around about the edge of the penalty area. So they would need to bring down the side of the current structure to enable the rest of the pitch to get done. I do not know Spanish to read on that forum but as Jordinho says, its inlikely in a 3 month period (guessing), although say they were given two away games to end the season and two to start the season you could argue that would be an extra month to do the works. It might be a question for Skyscrapper forum.
Our own predicament suggest that our 3/4 structure would be ready in 2 years. Bilbao is around 13/14 months into its works schedule.
Gonna go google translate a few items to see how they plan to get the pitch done and play on it.
The current plans show that the pitch would be built upto around about the edge of the penalty area. So they would need to bring down the side of the current structure to enable the rest of the pitch to get done. I do not know Spanish to read on that forum but as Jordinho says, its inlikely in a 3 month period (guessing), although say they were given two away games to end the season and two to start the season you could argue that would be an extra month to do the works. It might be a question for Skyscrapper forum.
Our own predicament suggest that our 3/4 structure would be ready in 2 years. Bilbao is around 13/14 months into its works schedule.
Gonna go google translate a few items to see how they plan to get the pitch done and play on it.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Anyone else a bit miffed that we are basically losing a year in that surely the Sainsbury site and the stadium structure can be started upon at the same time. I have seen huge supermarkets go up in 6 months, alot bigger than the current version on this project.
Anyone else a bit miffed that we are basically losing a year in that surely the Sainsbury site and the stadium structure can be started upon at the same time. I have seen huge supermarkets go up in 6 months, alot bigger than the current version on this project.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
I assume they can do some of the ground work on the site.
I think its quite amazing after the required revisions, the Olympic stadium distraction, and the supposed unviability issues that we are not necessarily that far behind schedule. We're only a year behind the schedule where everything went right. Here is the schedule listed in the original planning application in 2009 ...
Clearly, there are still a few ifs but that suggests it's still possible to move into the partially built stadium in 2014 or 2015.
The supermarket is a year later, but for some reason they had two years between starting the supermarket and stadium
I assume they can do some of the ground work on the site.
I think its quite amazing after the required revisions, the Olympic stadium distraction, and the supposed unviability issues that we are not necessarily that far behind schedule. We're only a year behind the schedule where everything went right. Here is the schedule listed in the original planning application in 2009 ...
Clearly, there are still a few ifs but that suggests it's still possible to move into the partially built stadium in 2014 or 2015.
The supermarket is a year later, but for some reason they had two years between starting the supermarket and stadium
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
tBilbao will be taking down one side of the current stadium once phase one is complete and continue playing in that stadium in a reduced capcity for one season. They plan to not play in the new structure until its complete. The oppiosite of ourselves as we will not be playing in a reduced capacity as the current stadium size of over 36k is covered by the 3 sides that will be built thus no loss of revenue.
Its interesting to note Bilbao FC may only be paying for a 1/3 of the stadium with the rest being paid for by public money, i.e Haringey council.
EDIT, reading that thread more in google translate it suggests down the line from initial planning the below and a move into the new structure.
tBilbao will be taking down one side of the current stadium once phase one is complete and continue playing in that stadium in a reduced capcity for one season. They plan to not play in the new structure until its complete. The oppiosite of ourselves as we will not be playing in a reduced capacity as the current stadium size of over 36k is covered by the 3 sides that will be built thus no loss of revenue.
Its interesting to note Bilbao FC may only be paying for a 1/3 of the stadium with the rest being paid for by public money, i.e Haringey council.
EDIT, reading that thread more in google translate it suggests down the line from initial planning the below and a move into the new structure.
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spurspinter1
Steve Carr
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
No wonder Haringey can't afford to help us out if they're sorting out Bilbao's stadium, that's a fudging joke
No wonder Haringey can't afford to help us out if they're sorting out Bilbao's stadium, that's a fudging joke
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
lol, you know what I ment.. there local govenment/council
lol, you know what I ment.. there local govenment/council
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Interesting.. pricing of stadium costs
€175m Bilbao 53k
€700m Lille 50k with 25k
:-k
But anyone seen what Lille did... its abosiluty nuts. Built a mini arena underneath the pitch, one half of the pitch lifts up over the other side of the pitch to reveal a 25k basketball arena.
Don't know if its nuts or genius lol
Interesting.. pricing of stadium costs
€175m Bilbao 53k
€700m Lille 50k with 25k
:-k
But anyone seen what Lille did... its abosiluty nuts. Built a mini arena underneath the pitch, one half of the pitch lifts up over the other side of the pitch to reveal a 25k basketball arena.
Don't know if its nuts or genius lol
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Presumably something to do with no sponsor, no start.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Brought to you by the same people who thought an airplane needed a bendy nose.
Brought to you by the same people who thought an airplane needed a bendy nose.
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
They won't. They will play a season in a three quarters complete old stadium before moving into the new stadium.
They won't. They will play a season in a three quarters complete old stadium before moving into the new stadium.
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Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
1. Building the supermarket before the stadium will mean useful and substantial money coming into the club before the stadium construction costs seriously escalate. I'm sure that it's a very deliberate part of the plan.
2. I would hazard a guess that the supermarkets that you've seen built in half the time that it will take to build the NDP supermarket were built out of town, in open space. The NDP supermarket build will be far more complex as a consequence of it being in a confined space in the middle of a densely populated urban area. What's absolutely certain is that Spurs will have planned to build it as quickly as they possibly can.
1. Building the supermarket before the stadium will mean useful and substantial money coming into the club before the stadium construction costs seriously escalate. I'm sure that it's a very deliberate part of the plan.
2. I would hazard a guess that the supermarkets that you've seen built in half the time that it will take to build the NDP supermarket were built out of town, in open space. The NDP supermarket build will be far more complex as a consequence of it being in a confined space in the middle of a densely populated urban area. What's absolutely certain is that Spurs will have planned to build it as quickly as they possibly can.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Oh my GHod that is mental, and it's already built?!? Check this out http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571021&page=167
That is so unlikely, but appears to be really real. That gives credence to my idea of building a 'fake floor' to cover the first tier of seats at Wembley, to build an Olympics size running track etc.
Oh my GHod that is mental, and it's already built?!? Check this out http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571021&page=167
That is so unlikely, but appears to be really real. That gives credence to my idea of building a 'fake floor' to cover the first tier of seats at Wembley, to build an Olympics size running track etc.
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Looks like they just move the whole the pitch, with part of it ending up underneath the stand at the end, similar to what Schalke and Vitesse do.
Looks like they just move the whole the pitch, with part of it ending up underneath the stand at the end, similar to what Schalke and Vitesse do.