Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
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New Stadium and Training Ground - Pg 104 Northumberland Park master plan
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Howard Webb
Clive Wilson
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
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Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
There's a post on it's way from the safe standing campaigner in this thread soon - it's written to be a front page article. It should have a poll with it that we can hopefully use to get the club to listen to our views. Replying with standard template letters is not good enough and if we can show we have the support in numbers then we can change their attitude.
There's a post on it's way from the safe standing campaigner in this thread soon - it's written to be a front page article. It should have a poll with it that we can hopefully use to get the club to listen to our views. Replying with standard template letters is not good enough and if we can show we have the support in numbers then we can change their attitude.
Steed Train
Clive Wilson
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
From the clubs view surely it should be a win. They can get more people in the same space (and most likely charge the same price)
Imagine if our proposed single tier was all standing
From the clubs view surely it should be a win. They can get more people in the same space (and most likely charge the same price)
Imagine if our proposed single tier was all standing
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
It's unlikely that they could get more capacity without improved transport, but most importantly they could have the possibility of a greater future capacity without massive rebuilding. Must be of some value to the club.
From the clubs view surely it should be a win. They can get more people in the same space (and most likely charge the same price)
Imagine if our proposed single tier was all standing
It's unlikely that they could get more capacity without improved transport, but most importantly they could have the possibility of a greater future capacity without massive rebuilding. Must be of some value to the club.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
The safe standing is probably something the club should ignore with the new stadium. All it could do is introduce delays.
There is also the danger that our competitive advantage from the new stadium is eroded by safe standing if it provides other clubs with an easier way of increasing capacity and revenue. They could for example convert some areas to safe standing, allowing conversion of other areas to corporate seating without a decrease in capacity.
The safe standing is probably something the club should ignore with the new stadium. All it could do is introduce delays.
There is also the danger that our competitive advantage from the new stadium is eroded by safe standing if it provides other clubs with an easier way of increasing capacity and revenue. They could for example convert some areas to safe standing, allowing conversion of other areas to corporate seating without a decrease in capacity.
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Hadn't thought of it that way, although our main competitors either have oil money or larger stadia anyway.
Hadn't thought of it that way, although our main competitors either have oil money or larger stadia anyway.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
I'm not sure I agree with this. Irrespective of the financial benefits that might accrue, imagine the atmosphere in that single tier if it was standing only. To be honest that alone is worth it for me. I don't really care if other teams follow suit or not.
There will be delays with the build one way or the other but I can't see how this will be one of them. We're either allowed or we're not.
I'm not sure I agree with this. Irrespective of the financial benefits that might accrue, imagine the atmosphere in that single tier if it was standing only. To be honest that alone is worth it for me. I don't really care if other teams follow suit or not.
There will be delays with the build one way or the other but I can't see how this will be one of them. We're either allowed or we're not.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
But we don't want Liverpool, Everton or Villa getting help, especially the former.
The Liverpool owners already have made the decision to go for expansion of Anfield and it looks like they won't be rushing. But in a couple of years they could propose safe standing for the Anfield Road end. Oddly they may be the one club who can push through the ideal, especially if they can claim unfairness of London clubs getting unfair help (money from the mayors office and unfair proximity to the City for us, a £500m taxpayers subsidy for West Ham). Then they can focus on corporates in the main stand and get their increase much cheaper than us.
And I think safe standing might let Chelsea do something at Stamford Bridge. They don't really need more total capacity so safe standing at the ends and increased more corporates in the centre would suit them.
Finally, if UEFA do get serious on the FFP, then City and Chelsea might depend on their stadia more.
But we don't want Liverpool, Everton or Villa getting help, especially the former.
The Liverpool owners already have made the decision to go for expansion of Anfield and it looks like they won't be rushing. But in a couple of years they could propose safe standing for the Anfield Road end. Oddly they may be the one club who can push through the ideal, especially if they can claim unfairness of London clubs getting unfair help (money from the mayors office and unfair proximity to the City for us, a £500m taxpayers subsidy for West Ham). Then they can focus on corporates in the main stand and get their increase much cheaper than us.
And I think safe standing might let Chelsea do something at Stamford Bridge. They don't really need more total capacity so safe standing at the ends and increased more corporates in the centre would suit them.
Finally, if UEFA do get serious on the FFP, then City and Chelsea might depend on their stadia more.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
We are not allowed now.
But if the possibility was attractive financially, the club could decide to explore it and see if the law was likely to change. It might be a good excuse to delay for a year or two.
We are not allowed now.
But if the possibility was attractive financially, the club could decide to explore it and see if the law was likely to change. It might be a good excuse to delay for a year or two.
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Have you watched the video about safe standing?....its not rocket science to install the stuff! by the looks of it could be done in close season easy.
Build the stadium and once the world has finally cried all its needed to cry about the 96 we can install it at a latter date, but the debate and the pressure needs to build a momentum before that could ever happen.
Have you watched the video about safe standing?....its not rocket science to install the stuff! by the looks of it could be done in close season easy.
Build the stadium and once the world has finally cried all its needed to cry about the 96 we can install it at a latter date, but the debate and the pressure needs to build a momentum before that could ever happen.
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
whatever increase those clubs could potentially get via safe standing we would match - so it isn't really an issue for me (if anything the average ticket price in London compared to Liverpool would mean we would still gain more than either of those clubs)
whatever increase those clubs could potentially get via safe standing we would match - so it isn't really an issue for me (if anything the average ticket price in London compared to Liverpool would mean we would still gain more than either of those clubs)
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Some better news from the club
Today I am one happy Yid, well as happy as one can be after a defeat lol
Dear Stephen
Thank you for your email and taking the time to write to us with your thoughts.
Plans are certainly afoot to deliver audio-visual updates of the Northumberland Development Project and we will trail these with information on the official website. We are also in discussions with the building contractor, MacLaren, to ensure they can strategically place cameras to ensure the changing face of the development is captured and relayed to fans.
In essence - watch this space - but please be assured that we do have these matters in hand!
Best regards
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Some better news from the club
Today I am one happy Yid, well as happy as one can be after a defeat lol
Dear Stephen
Thank you for your email and taking the time to write to us with your thoughts.
Plans are certainly afoot to deliver audio-visual updates of the Northumberland Development Project and we will trail these with information on the official website. We are also in discussions with the building contractor, MacLaren, to ensure they can strategically place cameras to ensure the changing face of the development is captured and relayed to fans.
In essence - watch this space - but please be assured that we do have these matters in hand!
Best regards
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mudshark
Chris Armstrong
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Standing tiers tend to be less steeply banked, though, so both bars and heads would almost certainly be in your way if you were forced to sit. That's also a reason they wouldn't want to build an all-seater stadium and then have to install safe standing as an afterthought.
Standing tiers tend to be less steeply banked, though, so both bars and heads would almost certainly be in your way if you were forced to sit. That's also a reason they wouldn't want to build an all-seater stadium and then have to install safe standing as an afterthought.
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DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Thats cool. Hopefully they can have some strippers on there too whilst nothing is happening at night etc.
Thats cool. Hopefully they can have some strippers on there too whilst nothing is happening at night etc.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Maybe the bars are high enough that a seated person looks under them.
Its hard to tell, though. The bars in the photo below look very high, but the person seated seems to be looking over them. Edit: I mean the man in brown (top centre). On looking again, I'm not sure if he is sitting or standing now.
Maybe the bars are high enough that a seated person looks under them.
Its hard to tell, though. The bars in the photo below look very high, but the person seated seems to be looking over them. Edit: I mean the man in brown (top centre). On looking again, I'm not sure if he is sitting or standing now.
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Naybet
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
i know a bit far fetched idea but why don't the club buy the land where the present sainsburys is turn it into a giant car park for the first couple of years when the new staduim opens,say charge £3/4 for parking at the same time you buy your match day ticket,therefore creating less hassle in looking for a space to park on matchday. if it creates a bit more easier flow of traffic before and after the game due to the increase attendance because its just off the north circular may help the situation,if it doesn't sell the land back.
i know a bit far fetched idea but why don't the club buy the land where the present sainsburys is turn it into a giant car park for the first couple of years when the new staduim opens,say charge £3/4 for parking at the same time you buy your match day ticket,therefore creating less hassle in looking for a space to park on matchday. if it creates a bit more easier flow of traffic before and after the game due to the increase attendance because its just off the north circular may help the situation,if it doesn't sell the land back.
Milas_Spur
Wayne Routledge
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
Doesn't look very appealing. Reminds me of a battery chicken cage.
Doesn't look very appealing. Reminds me of a battery chicken cage.
jaysea67
Erik Edman
Re: New stadium and training ground thread - Pg 74 Haringey Council plans 2025
As I recall, a condition of the planning permission is that the club are committed to ensuring that although capacity will increase by 20k+ there will be a reduction in the number of spectators arriving by car. So they probably don't want to encourage people to drive by opening a large car park.
As I recall, a condition of the planning permission is that the club are committed to ensuring that although capacity will increase by 20k+ there will be a reduction in the number of spectators arriving by car. So they probably don't want to encourage people to drive by opening a large car park.