africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
delete.....(starting to sound more of a nut job than i am)
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Morata
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africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
nah mate , you were right to question me, heaven knows i would if someone sounded crazy like that LOL
i will say though that i did see pace and power but i certainly didnt see skill and natural finishing to take home from that.
edit_ it seems quite a few pros rate morata very highly.
I'm going to bow to theirs and other people's thoughts on this.
but pjanic i am TELLINg you is the dogs
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Bullet
Colin Calderwood
There is a youngster with more pace, power, skill and long distance finishing ability on our books - Townsendinho
[video=youtube;UL9a6w3MDuY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9a6w3MDuY[/video]
I have said it before but it is like the X Factor. You can tell almost immediately if someone is gonna be a star.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-from-Tottenham-to-the-Spanish-capital.html
Real Madrid's 'local hero' Álvaro Morata remains the key to Gareth Bale's transfer from Tottenham to the Spanish capital
You want our best player and we want your best young player. That seems to have been Daniel Levy’s line of attack as he tries to get the best possible deal for Spurs this summer.
Eyebrows may have been raised over a 20-year-old kid with barely any first team experience in Spain becoming one of the main sticking points in Real Madrid’s pursuit of Gareth Bale, but Tottenham continue to insist on the inclusion of Alvaro Morata and his youth international record helps to explain why.
The most diligent directors of football across Europe – Tottenham’s Franco Baldini among them – will have followed the young centre forward from at least as far back as 2011 when he finished top tournament scorer with six goals in the Under-19 European Championships.
He also won the Golden Boot this summer in Israel, top-scoring with four goals as Spain won the Under-21 European Championship.
His country hope, after his two successes at youth level, he will go on to win trophies with the seniors. With 21 goals in 25 games for the national youth teams it is little wonder they call him Spain’s next No 9.
It could be argued a No 9 is something the world and European champions need now.
David Villa and Fernando Torres have peaked, Álvaro Negredo and Roberto Soldado have, at different times, failed to convince Vicente Del Bosque.
Negredo was left out of this summer’s Confederations Cup and Soldado missed out on the European Championships the year before.
After his performances in Israel some have suggested Morata should make the step up sooner rather than later to compete for that centre-forward shirt.
That would certainly be easier to do in Tottenham’s first team rather than in Real Madrid’s reserves.
According to some Madrid supporters ‘the reserves’, or as the case at Madrid their ‘Castilla’ side that competes in the second division and is, in effect, their youth team.
It is where Jose Mourinho left Morata for too long before giving his first-team breakthrough.
After a game against Levante last year when Morata came on to score the winner with his first touch in a 2-1 victory, Mourinho went to great lengths to defend himself against such claims.
“The one who gave him his debut? That was me,” he said.
“The one who made sure he was part of the pre-season tour three years running? That was me.
"The one that made sure he did not leave the club? That was me.
"The one who told the club they should give him a first team contract? That was also me.”
Mourinho never doubted Morata’s huge potential but he felt the player should be spared having to respond to the demands of the Madrid supporters and their over-developed and, in recent years, under-satisfied hunger for a local hero.
In the second half of last season, he played in his first clasico, operating on the left of the three behind Karim Benzema.
He was playing ahead of the rested Cristiano Ronaldo and performed so well that when Ronaldo came on in the second half it was to replace Benzema and not Morata.
He had set up the opening goal for Benzema after just six minutes and went close to scoring himself in the second half.
If that performance did not persuade watching European clubs he was ready for first team football then this summer’s performances in the European Championship in Israel will
have.
The long stride, the dark mane, the ability to hold the ball up facing his team, and finish with his head and both feet facing goal, have provoked comparisons with Fernando Morientes.
That impressive performance against Barcelona playing to the left of Benzema will have also been noted by Tottenham – a place to the left of Roberto Soldado would be another tactical option for Andre Villas-Boas post-Bale.
Soldado has plenty in common with Morata as a former Real Madrid youngster tipped to star for the first team.
The difference being that in Soldado’s day president Florentino Pérez could not wait to the get the home-grown players out of the door for a quick fee.
Now there is more pressure on him to nurture the local talent as Barcelona have done on their way to three Champions League successes in the last seven years.
Bale or no Bale, the fans will not be happy if Morata leaves.
Real Madrid's 'local hero' Álvaro Morata remains the key to Gareth Bale's transfer from Tottenham to the Spanish capital
You want our best player and we want your best young player. That seems to have been Daniel Levy’s line of attack as he tries to get the best possible deal for Spurs this summer.
Eyebrows may have been raised over a 20-year-old kid with barely any first team experience in Spain becoming one of the main sticking points in Real Madrid’s pursuit of Gareth Bale, but Tottenham continue to insist on the inclusion of Alvaro Morata and his youth international record helps to explain why.
The most diligent directors of football across Europe – Tottenham’s Franco Baldini among them – will have followed the young centre forward from at least as far back as 2011 when he finished top tournament scorer with six goals in the Under-19 European Championships.
He also won the Golden Boot this summer in Israel, top-scoring with four goals as Spain won the Under-21 European Championship.
His country hope, after his two successes at youth level, he will go on to win trophies with the seniors. With 21 goals in 25 games for the national youth teams it is little wonder they call him Spain’s next No 9.
It could be argued a No 9 is something the world and European champions need now.
David Villa and Fernando Torres have peaked, Álvaro Negredo and Roberto Soldado have, at different times, failed to convince Vicente Del Bosque.
Negredo was left out of this summer’s Confederations Cup and Soldado missed out on the European Championships the year before.
After his performances in Israel some have suggested Morata should make the step up sooner rather than later to compete for that centre-forward shirt.
That would certainly be easier to do in Tottenham’s first team rather than in Real Madrid’s reserves.
According to some Madrid supporters ‘the reserves’, or as the case at Madrid their ‘Castilla’ side that competes in the second division and is, in effect, their youth team.
It is where Jose Mourinho left Morata for too long before giving his first-team breakthrough.
After a game against Levante last year when Morata came on to score the winner with his first touch in a 2-1 victory, Mourinho went to great lengths to defend himself against such claims.
“The one who gave him his debut? That was me,” he said.
“The one who made sure he was part of the pre-season tour three years running? That was me.
"The one that made sure he did not leave the club? That was me.
"The one who told the club they should give him a first team contract? That was also me.”
Mourinho never doubted Morata’s huge potential but he felt the player should be spared having to respond to the demands of the Madrid supporters and their over-developed and, in recent years, under-satisfied hunger for a local hero.
In the second half of last season, he played in his first clasico, operating on the left of the three behind Karim Benzema.
He was playing ahead of the rested Cristiano Ronaldo and performed so well that when Ronaldo came on in the second half it was to replace Benzema and not Morata.
He had set up the opening goal for Benzema after just six minutes and went close to scoring himself in the second half.
If that performance did not persuade watching European clubs he was ready for first team football then this summer’s performances in the European Championship in Israel will
have.
The long stride, the dark mane, the ability to hold the ball up facing his team, and finish with his head and both feet facing goal, have provoked comparisons with Fernando Morientes.
That impressive performance against Barcelona playing to the left of Benzema will have also been noted by Tottenham – a place to the left of Roberto Soldado would be another tactical option for Andre Villas-Boas post-Bale.
Soldado has plenty in common with Morata as a former Real Madrid youngster tipped to star for the first team.
The difference being that in Soldado’s day president Florentino Pérez could not wait to the get the home-grown players out of the door for a quick fee.
Now there is more pressure on him to nurture the local talent as Barcelona have done on their way to three Champions League successes in the last seven years.
Bale or no Bale, the fans will not be happy if Morata leaves.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Yup, I'm saddened that I'm just too young to have seen Hoddle at his prime. I only really developed an interest in football in 1989/90, too late.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I'm more happy that, if it is true, we are trying to hurt Madrid and strengthen ourselves at the same time. I want to see those bastards wince, and what better way to do it that taking a player that they attach a sentimental value to that will probably turn out to be brilliant for us as well? Well, probably by wanting Bale to fail there, but the lad doesn't deserve that and I have no desire to watch that.
Still think Bale will end up staying, though.
Still think Bale will end up staying, though.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
This. A significant upgrade on Dempsey and Lennon.
stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I love it that we seem to be sticking to our guns on this.
It's as though Levy is saying to them, money seems to have no meaning to you but I WILL take my pound of flesh.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Not entirely credible but...
http://football-talk.co.uk/87390/mo...or-talks-madrid-now-willing-to-discuss-deal/?
http://football-talk.co.uk/87390/mo...or-talks-madrid-now-willing-to-discuss-deal/?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Looked very promising in that youth international tournament this summer, but I haven't seen him otherwise.
In general I'm not a massive fan of bringing in youngsters on short term loans. If it's a loan with a view to a permanent deal in the summer it makes a lot of sense, but just the half a season loan when he's likely going to need time to adjust and he's still young and developing I'm not so sure about.
In general I'm not a massive fan of bringing in youngsters on short term loans. If it's a loan with a view to a permanent deal in the summer it makes a lot of sense, but just the half a season loan when he's likely going to need time to adjust and he's still young and developing I'm not so sure about.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
The guy is looking for playing time so maybe any move would have this stipulation attached to it, which I'm not sure we can guarantee. I haven't seen that much of him playing for RM (which is his main gripe I suppose) but what I have seen he looks promising but a bit raw. I'm with braineclipse, if he comes with an option to making it a permanent move then maybe yes but otherwise we should look for cover elsewhere.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Don't really see the point myself.
If we can buy him, great.
But there's no point loaning him. Why develop a player for Madrid whilst putting Soldado and Ade's noses out of joint?
Also, if we do get a forward in now, someone who is a bit more versatile and can do a job out wide (e.g. Pato and Vucinic can both play LF; whilst Remy can play RF, though we are better stocked on that side) as well might be better
If we can buy him, great.
But there's no point loaning him. Why develop a player for Madrid whilst putting Soldado and Ade's noses out of joint?
Also, if we do get a forward in now, someone who is a bit more versatile and can do a job out wide (e.g. Pato and Vucinic can both play LF; whilst Remy can play RF, though we are better stocked on that side) as well might be better
The point would be that (1) we might be making another manager change in teh summer if LVG becomes available and (2) even if we dont change manager, we need a new CF given that we'll be down to 2 senior CFs (plus Kane) and there are always far more options available in the summer window. Better therefore to loan Morata if we can and buy some time til the summer - getting by on Soldado (off-form) and Ade (inconsistent, stroppy) for the rest of teh season is a risk, particularly if we continue to progress in the EL
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
I don't really see it happening if the options were L'****, Us or West Ham..
If he was willing to come to the PL L'**** would be more attractive right now, being top of the league, stability with Wenger, no fit Strikers so he would get a run of few games etc.. Maybe at the start of the season we would have been slightly more attractive (or at least equal) what with AVB and the excitement of us bringing in new players with all the Bale money but not right now sitting 6th with a new manager and Soldado and Ade fit and starting regularly.
**Gonna go wash my mouth out now lol**
If he was willing to come to the PL L'**** would be more attractive right now, being top of the league, stability with Wenger, no fit Strikers so he would get a run of few games etc.. Maybe at the start of the season we would have been slightly more attractive (or at least equal) what with AVB and the excitement of us bringing in new players with all the Bale money but not right now sitting 6th with a new manager and Soldado and Ade fit and starting regularly.
**Gonna go wash my mouth out now lol**
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Signing this week i bet