-
Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara
Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
- Thread starter DubaiSpur
- Start date
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the tasks of the analysis team is to evaluate players' character and attitude and whether it would fit in with the mentality of the team.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I agree mate, I think h really could've done some work for us in this system/squad, but apparently Poch gave him a couple of chances before moving him on...
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
From all the interviews from Mitch's time at Southampton it's a major part of the analysis.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Absolutely. Poch did give Lennon plenty of chances, and he has proved himself to be very fair in all cases. It would have been nice to have another testimonial though and I will always remember Lennon for the good things.
clownfoot
Goran Bunjevcevic
http://www.theguardian.com/football...hettino-tottenham-premier-league-best-defence
Tottenham have the best defensive record in the Premier League. It’s not a sentence we’re used to hearing. Not since 1951 have Spurs finished a campaign with the best defensive record of the division they’ve been in. It’s not the Spurs way. They’re supposed to be about moments of occasional attacking genius set against a background of general flakiness. Not any more.
It’s Tottenham’s pressing that really stands out. They perhaps don’t push quite as high or with such relentlessness as Mauricio Pochettino’s Southampton, but that’s part of his maturation as a manager. In previous years his sides have tended to dip in the latter part of the season, but that dip has become less and less pronounced as he has adapted to the demands of the Premier League. The pressing is more controlled now, and if anything seems even more effective.
Pochettino’s inspiration is clear, the parallels between the Newell’s Old Boys side in which he came of age as a central defender and this Spurs obvious. “When we won the titles, and reached the final of the Copa Libertadores [in 1992], we were very similar to the squad that we have now,” Pochettino said this month. “In terms of the average age of the squad, and in the balance between younger and experienced players. There were very good youngsters – like me – and very good experienced players. A similar balance, a similar project.”
Youth is important, if only because young players tended to be more biddable and less cynical than more seasoned players, more willing to follow a manager’s commands.
Pochettino was 13 when he first met Marcelo Bielsa, who at the time had just joined Newell’s as youth co-ordinator. Bielsa, terrified of flying and meticulous as ever, had divided Argentina into 70 sections and, believing talent from the interior was often overlooked, was determined to drive to each of them in his Fiat 147 to search for players. Pochettino’s home town of Murphy – population 3,500, including the parents of the future Southampton goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga – was one of his shorter trips, being located, like Rosario where Newell’s are based, in Santa Fe province, but it was 2am by the time Bielsa turned up. He looked at the sleeping boy’s legs, declared him a footballer and signed him on the spot. Five years later, Bielsa replaced José Yudica as coach and Pochettino was elevated to the first team.
FacebookTwitterPinterest
The influence of Marcelo Bielsa, who signed Mauricio Pochettino for Newell’s Old Boys, is apparent in the way Spurs play. Bielsa is here coaching Chile in 2009.
By 1992 the style had evolved. Juan Manuel Llop, who had been regarded as a right-back who could play in the centre, was shifted into central midfield, with a brief to drop back and become an extra centre-back when the two full-backs were drawn forwards. That was a 3-4-3 rather than Tottenham’s 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 hybrid, but the similarity between Llop’s role and that of Eric Dier, the way a solid base was constructed as a platform for the press, is clear.
Although Pochettino has begun to rotate the full-backs, he has kept the heart of his defence stable. Jan Vertonghen’s knee injury has forced a change but before that, he and Toby Alderweireld had started together in the first 23 league games of the season. Kevin Wimmer has started the three matches since Vertonghen’s injury, becoming only the third centre-back used by Spurs this season; the contrast to 2007-08 when they used nine different central defenders is telling.
In 21 of those games, they had Dier sitting just in front of them. That relationship is key. Vertonghen and Alderweireld play at full-back for Belgium; they may prefer operating centrally but they are capable and not unused to moving wide. Dier can then drop back between them as a de facto third centre-back – at Watford in December, in fact, the trio started as a back three to combat Troy Deeney and Odion Ighalo.
That capacity to switch to a back three during games in turn gives the full-backs licence to push on, which is useful from an attacking point of view in that it allows them to offer creative width but it’s also an advantage from a defensive point of view, facilitating the press high up the pitch.
The effectiveness of that can be seen in a number of statistics. Tottenham make the sixth-most tackles per game in the Premier League, but what’s significant about that is that of the five teams who tackle more than they do, only victims have had more possession this season, while three are in the bottom four for possession (and, obviously, there is a correlation between not having the ball – low possession – and a high tackle rate to try to win it back).
FacebookTwitterPinterest
Eric Dier sits at the base of Tottenham’s midfielder and his capacity to drop back as a de facto third centre-back is of great tactical benefit.
Spurs also make more fouls per game than anybody else – 12.7 per game – evidence of how far they’ve come from the old days of being regarded as a little too nice to be taken seriously. No attacking midfielder has made as many interceptions as Dele Alli this season, with Érik Lamela joint-third, and no striker has won the ball as often as Harry Kane, which gives some indication of how high up Spurs look to regain possession.
That requires great fitness, which was also a characteristic of Bielsa’s side. “Newell’s were like a tractor that would shatter all opposition,” said the former Boca Juniors defender Juan Simón. “That team would suffocate you: that was the Bielsa touch, adding mad pressing to Newell’s existing football style. After facing them, you’d go back to the dressing room feeling that you were going to pass out, that they had made you run as never before.”
Brad Friedel said that in two decades of football he’d never worked with a coach who placed such an emphasis on conditioning as Pochettino. Where he departs from Bielsa, who has always had a tendency to drive players too hard, is in modifying the workload so players aren’t overwhelmed by the latter stages of a season.
The benefits of that are seen not only in Spurs’ fitness but in the lack of muscular injuries they’ve suffered this season. That in turn allows for a greater consistency of selection, making the pressing slicker. A virtuous circle has been created. It’s one inspired by Bielsa, but perhaps improved upon by Pochettino.
Tottenham have the best defensive record in the Premier League. It’s not a sentence we’re used to hearing. Not since 1951 have Spurs finished a campaign with the best defensive record of the division they’ve been in. It’s not the Spurs way. They’re supposed to be about moments of occasional attacking genius set against a background of general flakiness. Not any more.
It’s Tottenham’s pressing that really stands out. They perhaps don’t push quite as high or with such relentlessness as Mauricio Pochettino’s Southampton, but that’s part of his maturation as a manager. In previous years his sides have tended to dip in the latter part of the season, but that dip has become less and less pronounced as he has adapted to the demands of the Premier League. The pressing is more controlled now, and if anything seems even more effective.
Pochettino’s inspiration is clear, the parallels between the Newell’s Old Boys side in which he came of age as a central defender and this Spurs obvious. “When we won the titles, and reached the final of the Copa Libertadores [in 1992], we were very similar to the squad that we have now,” Pochettino said this month. “In terms of the average age of the squad, and in the balance between younger and experienced players. There were very good youngsters – like me – and very good experienced players. A similar balance, a similar project.”
Youth is important, if only because young players tended to be more biddable and less cynical than more seasoned players, more willing to follow a manager’s commands.
Pochettino was 13 when he first met Marcelo Bielsa, who at the time had just joined Newell’s as youth co-ordinator. Bielsa, terrified of flying and meticulous as ever, had divided Argentina into 70 sections and, believing talent from the interior was often overlooked, was determined to drive to each of them in his Fiat 147 to search for players. Pochettino’s home town of Murphy – population 3,500, including the parents of the future Southampton goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga – was one of his shorter trips, being located, like Rosario where Newell’s are based, in Santa Fe province, but it was 2am by the time Bielsa turned up. He looked at the sleeping boy’s legs, declared him a footballer and signed him on the spot. Five years later, Bielsa replaced José Yudica as coach and Pochettino was elevated to the first team.
FacebookTwitterPinterest
The influence of Marcelo Bielsa, who signed Mauricio Pochettino for Newell’s Old Boys, is apparent in the way Spurs play. Bielsa is here coaching Chile in 2009.
By 1992 the style had evolved. Juan Manuel Llop, who had been regarded as a right-back who could play in the centre, was shifted into central midfield, with a brief to drop back and become an extra centre-back when the two full-backs were drawn forwards. That was a 3-4-3 rather than Tottenham’s 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 hybrid, but the similarity between Llop’s role and that of Eric Dier, the way a solid base was constructed as a platform for the press, is clear.
Although Pochettino has begun to rotate the full-backs, he has kept the heart of his defence stable. Jan Vertonghen’s knee injury has forced a change but before that, he and Toby Alderweireld had started together in the first 23 league games of the season. Kevin Wimmer has started the three matches since Vertonghen’s injury, becoming only the third centre-back used by Spurs this season; the contrast to 2007-08 when they used nine different central defenders is telling.
In 21 of those games, they had Dier sitting just in front of them. That relationship is key. Vertonghen and Alderweireld play at full-back for Belgium; they may prefer operating centrally but they are capable and not unused to moving wide. Dier can then drop back between them as a de facto third centre-back – at Watford in December, in fact, the trio started as a back three to combat Troy Deeney and Odion Ighalo.
That capacity to switch to a back three during games in turn gives the full-backs licence to push on, which is useful from an attacking point of view in that it allows them to offer creative width but it’s also an advantage from a defensive point of view, facilitating the press high up the pitch.
The effectiveness of that can be seen in a number of statistics. Tottenham make the sixth-most tackles per game in the Premier League, but what’s significant about that is that of the five teams who tackle more than they do, only victims have had more possession this season, while three are in the bottom four for possession (and, obviously, there is a correlation between not having the ball – low possession – and a high tackle rate to try to win it back).
FacebookTwitterPinterest
Eric Dier sits at the base of Tottenham’s midfielder and his capacity to drop back as a de facto third centre-back is of great tactical benefit.
Spurs also make more fouls per game than anybody else – 12.7 per game – evidence of how far they’ve come from the old days of being regarded as a little too nice to be taken seriously. No attacking midfielder has made as many interceptions as Dele Alli this season, with Érik Lamela joint-third, and no striker has won the ball as often as Harry Kane, which gives some indication of how high up Spurs look to regain possession.
That requires great fitness, which was also a characteristic of Bielsa’s side. “Newell’s were like a tractor that would shatter all opposition,” said the former Boca Juniors defender Juan Simón. “That team would suffocate you: that was the Bielsa touch, adding mad pressing to Newell’s existing football style. After facing them, you’d go back to the dressing room feeling that you were going to pass out, that they had made you run as never before.”
Brad Friedel said that in two decades of football he’d never worked with a coach who placed such an emphasis on conditioning as Pochettino. Where he departs from Bielsa, who has always had a tendency to drive players too hard, is in modifying the workload so players aren’t overwhelmed by the latter stages of a season.
The benefits of that are seen not only in Spurs’ fitness but in the lack of muscular injuries they’ve suffered this season. That in turn allows for a greater consistency of selection, making the pressing slicker. A virtuous circle has been created. It’s one inspired by Bielsa, but perhaps improved upon by Pochettino.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Did Dawson get a testimonial? Could do a joint one.
Craig_J
Mido
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
Nice to see Pochettino showing some emotion to celebrate our win. Wish he would celebrate our goals more though. Looking at that video, it is funny to see Kane's reaction to Pochettino hugging everyone. It is either Kane is shocked by Pochettino showing emotion or he felt Pochettino celebrating too much ! Also find it funny Pochettino hugging Vorm as if to say thanks for sitting on the bench !
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Nice to see Pochettino showing some emotion to celebrate our win. Wish he would celebrate our goals more though. Looking at that video, it is funny to see Kane's reaction to Pochettino hugging everyone. It is either Kane is shocked by Pochettino showing emotion or he felt Pochettino celebrating too much ! Also find it funny Pochettino hugging Vorm as if to say thanks for sitting on the bench !
I was actually extremely pleased when I saw that. In fact it pleased me more than any other aspect of those celebrations after the game.
I heard one of the players or coaches (sorry can't remember which one!) from England’s Rugby World Cup winning team explain that the squad players who were not part of the starting team were just as important as the players picked to play.
The reasoning behind this was that it is the squad players who will play against the first team players in training and it is the squad players who generally determine the overall mood in the camp. If there are cliques and pockets of players not on message then it brings the whole camp down. It is easy for players not being picked to act less professionally, to not listen to the coaches and/or to drop their levels in training. However those same squad players have to always be ready to fill in and do a job hitting the required level immediately.
I think there was a rule that when the team for each of England’s games at the Rugby World Cup was announced, the player who wasn’t selected had to go to the player picked ahead of him, shake his hand, say that they deserved their place and that they were right behind them and wouldn't let them down if something happened and they had to replace them.
Seeing Vorm (and the rest of the subs) over saluting the fans at the end of the Emirates Marketing Project game and seeing Pochettino thanking the reserves just as much as the first team indicated to me that the mentality and togetherness at our club is fantastic at the moment. That is the sort of mentality that results in winning things.
Pochettino wouldn't have been hugging Vorm to say "thanks for sitting on the bench". It is far more likely that he was hugging him to say "Thanks for being part of this thoroughly professional squad. Thanks for not letting your level drop in training. Thanks for being right behind Hugo and pushing him to perform at his best every week. Thanks for being ready to play when we need you."
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
http://www.theguardian.com/football...hettino-tottenham-premier-league-best-defence
Tottenham have the best defensive record in the Premier League. It’s not a sentence we’re used to hearing. Not since 1951 have Spurs finished a campaign with the best defensive record of the division they’ve been in. It’s not the Spurs way. They’re supposed to be about moments of occasional attacking genius set against a background of general flakiness. Not any more.
It’s Tottenham’s pressing that really stands out. They perhaps don’t push quite as high or with such relentlessness as Mauricio Pochettino’s Southampton, but that’s part of his maturation as a manager. In previous years his sides have tended to dip in the latter part of the season, but that dip has become less and less pronounced as he has adapted to the demands of the Premier League. The pressing is more controlled now, and if anything seems even more effective.
Pochettino’s inspiration is clear, the parallels between the Newell’s Old Boys side in which he came of age as a central defender and this Spurs obvious. “When we won the titles, and reached the final of the Copa Libertadores [in 1992], we were very similar to the squad that we have now,” Pochettino said this month. “In terms of the average age of the squad, and in the balance between younger and experienced players. There were very good youngsters – like me – and very good experienced players. A similar balance, a similar project.”
Youth is important, if only because young players tended to be more biddable and less cynical than more seasoned players, more willing to follow a manager’s commands.
Pochettino was 13 when he first met Marcelo Bielsa, who at the time had just joined Newell’s as youth co-ordinator. Bielsa, terrified of flying and meticulous as ever, had divided Argentina into 70 sections and, believing talent from the interior was often overlooked, was determined to drive to each of them in his Fiat 147 to search for players. Pochettino’s home town of Murphy – population 3,500, including the parents of the future Southampton goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga – was one of his shorter trips, being located, like Rosario where Newell’s are based, in Santa Fe province, but it was 2am by the time Bielsa turned up. He looked at the sleeping boy’s legs, declared him a footballer and signed him on the spot. Five years later, Bielsa replaced José Yudica as coach and Pochettino was elevated to the first team.
FacebookTwitterPinterest
The influence of Marcelo Bielsa, who signed Mauricio Pochettino for Newell’s Old Boys, is apparent in the way Spurs play. Bielsa is here coaching Chile in 2009.
By 1992 the style had evolved. Juan Manuel Llop, who had been regarded as a right-back who could play in the centre, was shifted into central midfield, with a brief to drop back and become an extra centre-back when the two full-backs were drawn forwards. That was a 3-4-3 rather than Tottenham’s 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 hybrid, but the similarity between Llop’s role and that of Eric Dier, the way a solid base was constructed as a platform for the press, is clear.
Although Pochettino has begun to rotate the full-backs, he has kept the heart of his defence stable. Jan Vertonghen’s knee injury has forced a change but before that, he and Toby Alderweireld had started together in the first 23 league games of the season. Kevin Wimmer has started the three matches since Vertonghen’s injury, becoming only the third centre-back used by Spurs this season; the contrast to 2007-08 when they used nine different central defenders is telling.
In 21 of those games, they had Dier sitting just in front of them. That relationship is key. Vertonghen and Alderweireld play at full-back for Belgium; they may prefer operating centrally but they are capable and not unused to moving wide. Dier can then drop back between them as a de facto third centre-back – at Watford in December, in fact, the trio started as a back three to combat Troy Deeney and Odion Ighalo.
That capacity to switch to a back three during games in turn gives the full-backs licence to push on, which is useful from an attacking point of view in that it allows them to offer creative width but it’s also an advantage from a defensive point of view, facilitating the press high up the pitch.
The effectiveness of that can be seen in a number of statistics. Tottenham make the sixth-most tackles per game in the Premier League, but what’s significant about that is that of the five teams who tackle more than they do, only victims have had more possession this season, while three are in the bottom four for possession (and, obviously, there is a correlation between not having the ball – low possession – and a high tackle rate to try to win it back).
FacebookTwitterPinterest
Eric Dier sits at the base of Tottenham’s midfielder and his capacity to drop back as a de facto third centre-back is of great tactical benefit.
Spurs also make more fouls per game than anybody else – 12.7 per game – evidence of how far they’ve come from the old days of being regarded as a little too nice to be taken seriously. No attacking midfielder has made as many interceptions as Dele Alli this season, with Érik Lamela joint-third, and no striker has won the ball as often as Harry Kane, which gives some indication of how high up Spurs look to regain possession.
That requires great fitness, which was also a characteristic of Bielsa’s side. “Newell’s were like a tractor that would shatter all opposition,” said the former Boca Juniors defender Juan Simón. “That team would suffocate you: that was the Bielsa touch, adding mad pressing to Newell’s existing football style. After facing them, you’d go back to the dressing room feeling that you were going to pass out, that they had made you run as never before.”
Brad Friedel said that in two decades of football he’d never worked with a coach who placed such an emphasis on conditioning as Pochettino. Where he departs from Bielsa, who has always had a tendency to drive players too hard, is in modifying the workload so players aren’t overwhelmed by the latter stages of a season.
The benefits of that are seen not only in Spurs’ fitness but in the lack of muscular injuries they’ve suffered this season. That in turn allows for a greater consistency of selection, making the pressing slicker. A virtuous circle has been created. It’s one inspired by Bielsa, but perhaps improved upon by Pochettino.
Great article; but the level of smoke being blowed up Poch's (and Spurs') butts is starting to scare me...a big bump in the road not far ahead feels too close for comfort
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Even Ade is blowing smoke
http://www.theguardian.com/football...erything-complicated-tottenham-crystal-palace
Ade said said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...erything-complicated-tottenham-crystal-palace
milo
Jack L. Jones
Nice to see Pochettino showing some emotion to celebrate our win. Wish he would celebrate our goals more though. Looking at that video, it is funny to see Kane's reaction to Pochettino hugging everyone. It is either Kane is shocked by Pochettino showing emotion or he felt Pochettino celebrating too much ! Also find it funny Pochettino hugging Vorm as if to say thanks for sitting on the bench !
I couldn't give a fudge how (or even if) he celebrates our goals. I'd rather he was just himself, than did things for show to appease the fans. If that means celebrating goals, then that is great too.
Last edited:
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
We are back at the quote of the season which flew under the radar...that when you sign for this club, you sign to train. He has developed a squad of 26 players not a team of 11. It is wonderful.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I imagine it depends on the situation. We've seen him call over players immediately after we've scored because he's had instructions to give. We've seen him discuss something with his assistants immediately after a goal...
Time and a place and to be nitpicking about how he responds to us scoring seems really strange at this point...
Didn't fly that much under the radar
metalgear
Luka Modric
the tinkerman is old news isn't it. been there done that. poch is the new dawn novelty.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Like last season winter, when even some here questioned that he might be a mistake? The key is to have your men on the committee which he appears to have achieved.
milo
Jack L. Jones
How many clubs have one person with complete autonomy over transfers?