Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
There’s no better manager to trust for an overhaul than Poch.
There’s no better manager to trust for an overhaul than Poch.
I’d like to see hunger back in the team
Has he been injured?
I’d like to see hunger back in the team
I get your point, mate. I can appreciate your angle of a change perhaps being beneficial. I am sure he will stay and am glad though, I’d be excited by a Poch Mark II team. Thinks it’s been a question of meteorology this season and that is because so many players are reaching the end of their time here. The way Steff has talked about Eriksen it seems like even if he signed a contract he would still be waiting for Barca.
If we start seeing the kind of stagnation and decline that Wenger delivered I would agree. I don't think we have, at all. A somewhat bumpy season in very difficult circumstances is to be expected and I see no reason to think Pochettino won't improve us from here. I don't see any reason to think that the probability of further improvement is higher with a different manager.I know he has not been with us anywhere near the same length of time, I still think though we cannot fall into a Wenger type scenario of hanging on to a manager from a 'fear of change'.
If we start seeing the kind of stagnation and decline that Wenger delivered I would agree. I don't think we have, at all. A somewhat bumpy season in very difficult circumstances is to be expected and I see no reason to think Pochettino won't improve us from here. I don't see any reason to think that the probability of further improvement is higher with a different manager.
It’s more the fear of change and that becoming a negative effect on the club.
It’s more the fear of change and that becoming a negative effect on the club.
It’s a very fair point but we’re certainly nowhere near that. If Poch delivers CL football for next season he has us punching above our weight. Throw in the other factors and it’s a hell of an achievement. It’s just been diminished in the eyes of some because he’s done it for several successive seasons. With some people, Poch is a victim of his own success and CL is now expected.
Wenger was delivering some very average results for several seasons. Arsenal should have made the change 2-5 years before they did IMO.
If we start seeing a reason to think that there's a fear of change I'll worry about that. Not much in how Levy has managed the club so far that indicates that's the case.It’s more the fear of change and that becoming a negative effect on the club.
Not sure fear of change is something that could be levelled at Levy, especially in respect of managers.
That’s a fair point. But, to be fair to Levy, Poch said last night that from the minute he signed, Levy told him the aim was to have CL football in the new stadium for the second season which was 5-6 years from when he appointed Poch.
That says to me that Levy is always thinking very long term (as his track record at the club indicates with the facilities and steady improvement).
Prior to Poch, Levy had a reputation as a trigger happy chairman. I think it’s beyond doubt now that that is not the case. He is always thinking long term - sometimes too much so. He won’t keep a manager he doesn’t see delivering in the long term. Personally, at the time and even now, I think he got the Jol and Harry calls wrong but if you stand back and look at the big, big picture, I can now see why he did what he did (even if AVB and Ramos were poor appointments).
Not sure fear of change is something that could be levelled at Levy, especially in respect of managers.
Levy will be all over this, luckily.
If we start seeing a reason to think that there's a fear of change I'll worry about that. Not much in how Levy has managed the club so far that indicates that's the case.
Let's not let the fear of the fear of change become a negative effect on the club
Levy will be all over this, luckily.