Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
Now this would be absolutely brilliant if it becomes reality 
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Manager Sack Watch
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Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Now this would be absolutely brilliant if it becomes reality
Popcorn at the ready
I hate Leeds but I’d love to see that, the guy is a genius.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Oh, and Wenger turned it down.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Did he, did they say that or did he?
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/real...al-madrid-one-of-the-teams-i-loved-as-a-child
Read that - folks do turn Madrid down. Whether it's loyalty to a current project, timing, or something else. I put Poch in the Wenger mould in this instance. There is no way I can see him leaving. It seems like Madrid are going to make a play for him - Sid Lowe is reporting he is their top target. But there is absolutely no way Poch can ever try and build a club via inspiring loyalty again if he made this move. He goes to Madrid, and he will absolutely need to succeed - if he doesn't, I think he loses a bit of himself. He can never ask a player for their ultimate commitment to the cause at his next club after Madrid if he's failed because he knows he would do the exact same thing as them. Or he can choose to set the example, and be the leader he has built himself up to be. He may go for it this time around, he may decide the time is right, it's not about building a club and creating a dynasty, it's about taking his deserved path to the elite, and hanging out in that company. Maybe he does.
Madrid will try and say to him there is about to be a rebuilding job, and there are a lot of young players that can now be integrating. I can see them making a big push. But I can't see Poch doing it to the players that are all about to sign new contracts at Spurs. I can't see him doing it to Levy. Not this summer. Not when he has talked so much about loyalty. Not when there will have been so much planning that will have gone into making this transition into the new stadium, and what this means for the club. As I said, I don't begrudge him the move in 3-5 years. But this summer I'd see it as poor form from the man, and I just don't think he is that guy anyway.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
I don’t believe him, maybe they asked to sound him out (one of a few options) and he turned that down, but not a hard offer.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
I'm sure if he said, 'I'm open' they would have made him a hard offer and really put the machine behind getting him out of Arsenal. He clearly could have gone there if he wanted to go there. He didn't want to leave Arsenal. It's pretty cut and dry, and really not disputed by anyone. It's been rumoured for years and those quotes from Wenger were released yesterday.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
If their #1 choice Poch turns them down?
Now that would be funny, especially if he took Salah with him
Just noticed the source. Makes it even funnier trolling.
StephenH
David Ginola
Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
https://www.comedy.co.uk/images/library/people/300/c/carry_on_dingdong.jpg
Can't see Kloppy leaving the cult tbh, he seems fully indoctrinated. Although that would make his defection even harder for them to take.
Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Decks cleared: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44332089Now this would be absolutely brilliant if it becomes reality
Popcorn at the ready
Would make a nice change for Dirty Leeds to have their manager quit after 5 minutes, rather than sacking them.
Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Snubbing Sol Campbell while Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard get big jobs is discrimination - we need Rooney Rule now
Campbell has been snubbed for roles as he looks to get into management, while former England stars were able to walk into positions
By
Stan Collymore
The Rooney Rule in football is now a must. And it is time for the discrimination to stop.
I understand all too well what discrimination is. I have been discriminated against in the past and continue to be.
I have won six major broadcasting awards but cannot get on any of the five or six main channels.(1)
Some of that is because I’m outspoken and I’ve called people out in managerial positions. I get it.
But in football the closest Sol Campbell, one of our most decorated players, has got to a major job is the assistant mangers’ role with Trinidad and Tobago.
Meanwhile, Frank Lampard has walked straight into Derby for his first job.
Steven Gerrard has walked straight into Rangers.
Roy Keane walked straight into Sunderland. Joey Barton was unveiled as Fleetwood Town manager yesterday.
If I acknowledge that coaching and management is only partly about qualifications, having been in six, seven, eight or nine good clubs I can say a big part is leadership, personality and character.
Ok. Where has Joey Barton proved his character, leadership, managerial and captaincy skills over Campbell? He hasn’t.
Then people will go further down the list for excuses. They won’t look for racism until it is blatantly obvious.
So then they say ‘but Barton knows the guy at Fleetwood.’(2)
Then it will be ‘Gerrard and Lampard are more relevant in modern football than Campbell.’(3)
Another is people use the experiences of John Barnes and Paul Ince and say they didn’t get jobs because they were bad managers, not because of their colour.
But the numbers don’t add up.
The stats show that since 1990 one in four England internationals to retire have been from black or ethnic minority backgrounds but only one in seven has gone into a management job.
Meanwhile a white, ex-England player is twice as likely to end up in a managerial job as their black counterpart.
So now, it is time for the Rooney Rule, guaranteeing minorities proper consideration for positions.(4)
And instead of friends giving friends jobs it is time for a merit-only based procedure.
Clubs should have to interview, for example, 10 candidates and out of those 10 there has to be a certain number who are of black or ethnic minority.
Then they can see the man, the whites of his eyes and they can put themselves there.
The excuses have got to stop. And if they don’t, pressure needs to be put on the PFA and the FA who have loosely agreed to put the Rooney Rule into effect and also the Premier League about, at some point, strike action.
Gary Neville nearly took the players out on strike over the PFA getting a certain amount of money from the Premier League. This is a million times more important.
His, and many people’s, colleagues are being discriminated against so they need to stand up and have a show of unity and say ‘we’re going to go on strike because we want the Rooney Rule. Look what it’s done in the NFL.’
Now we have black Super Bowl-winning coaches but 15, 20 years ago they were having exactly the same debate – ‘they’re not captaincy and leadership figures’ was the claim.
But at every turn those walls have been broken down and proven to be rubbish.
The notion that Gerrard and Lampard walk into those very high-profile jobs and that Campbell is scratching around in a part-time role, if that doesn’t accurately highlight discrimination I don’t know what does. (5)
(1) Sorry, Stan, but thats more likely because you are a well publicised woman beating bell end. TV companies will not go near people with such poor PR in the first place, it leaves them exposed. Look at Carragher this season, golden boy immeidately (and indefinitely?) suspended after being caught spitting at someone.
(2) Barton does know the guy at Fleetwood (a man who prides himself on doing things differently). More importantly, he knows Barton.
In his own words:
“It doesn’t bother me. Clearly Joey regrets what occurred but I’m all about looking forwards.
“I really enjoy his company. He’s not the guy a lot of people believe him to be. He’s made mistakes in the past but so has everybody.
“He’s box office. If we want to increase the profile of the football club he’ll certainly do that.
“He’s very intelligent, he’s an excellent communicator, has huge energy levels and is very driven. He has all the attributes to be a top coach.
“He’s going to be raw, I understand that. There’s an responsibility on me and the other people at the football club to assist him. But I think he can take us right to the top of League One.
“He’s been managing in dressing rooms for years. He’s a leader. I think he can go on to blossom into one of the top coaches in the UK, and who knows, even Europe.”
If anyone is qualified to judge Bartons suitability, its him. Nepotism? Yeah, maybe, but racism? Absolutely not.
(3) Gerrard and Lampard ARE more relevant. They stuck around longer, won more, were higher profile. Nothing to do with race.
(4) Quite possiblynot a popular one here, but I do not want or like the Rooney rule. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
(5) It doesnt show discrimination. It shows two people focused on building a management career, including the contacts, profile, background etc required, and one who is an utter bellend and lunatic who expects it to be offered on a plate.
Campbell has been snubbed for roles as he looks to get into management, while former England stars were able to walk into positions
By
Stan Collymore
- 18:45, 4 JUN 2018
- UPDATED22:21, 4 JUN 2018
The Rooney Rule in football is now a must. And it is time for the discrimination to stop.
I understand all too well what discrimination is. I have been discriminated against in the past and continue to be.
I have won six major broadcasting awards but cannot get on any of the five or six main channels.(1)
Some of that is because I’m outspoken and I’ve called people out in managerial positions. I get it.
But in football the closest Sol Campbell, one of our most decorated players, has got to a major job is the assistant mangers’ role with Trinidad and Tobago.
Meanwhile, Frank Lampard has walked straight into Derby for his first job.
Steven Gerrard has walked straight into Rangers.
Roy Keane walked straight into Sunderland. Joey Barton was unveiled as Fleetwood Town manager yesterday.
If I acknowledge that coaching and management is only partly about qualifications, having been in six, seven, eight or nine good clubs I can say a big part is leadership, personality and character.
Ok. Where has Joey Barton proved his character, leadership, managerial and captaincy skills over Campbell? He hasn’t.
Then people will go further down the list for excuses. They won’t look for racism until it is blatantly obvious.
So then they say ‘but Barton knows the guy at Fleetwood.’(2)
Then it will be ‘Gerrard and Lampard are more relevant in modern football than Campbell.’(3)
Another is people use the experiences of John Barnes and Paul Ince and say they didn’t get jobs because they were bad managers, not because of their colour.
But the numbers don’t add up.
The stats show that since 1990 one in four England internationals to retire have been from black or ethnic minority backgrounds but only one in seven has gone into a management job.
Meanwhile a white, ex-England player is twice as likely to end up in a managerial job as their black counterpart.
So now, it is time for the Rooney Rule, guaranteeing minorities proper consideration for positions.(4)
And instead of friends giving friends jobs it is time for a merit-only based procedure.
Clubs should have to interview, for example, 10 candidates and out of those 10 there has to be a certain number who are of black or ethnic minority.
Then they can see the man, the whites of his eyes and they can put themselves there.
The excuses have got to stop. And if they don’t, pressure needs to be put on the PFA and the FA who have loosely agreed to put the Rooney Rule into effect and also the Premier League about, at some point, strike action.
Gary Neville nearly took the players out on strike over the PFA getting a certain amount of money from the Premier League. This is a million times more important.
His, and many people’s, colleagues are being discriminated against so they need to stand up and have a show of unity and say ‘we’re going to go on strike because we want the Rooney Rule. Look what it’s done in the NFL.’
Now we have black Super Bowl-winning coaches but 15, 20 years ago they were having exactly the same debate – ‘they’re not captaincy and leadership figures’ was the claim.
But at every turn those walls have been broken down and proven to be rubbish.
The notion that Gerrard and Lampard walk into those very high-profile jobs and that Campbell is scratching around in a part-time role, if that doesn’t accurately highlight discrimination I don’t know what does. (5)
(1) Sorry, Stan, but thats more likely because you are a well publicised woman beating bell end. TV companies will not go near people with such poor PR in the first place, it leaves them exposed. Look at Carragher this season, golden boy immeidately (and indefinitely?) suspended after being caught spitting at someone.
(2) Barton does know the guy at Fleetwood (a man who prides himself on doing things differently). More importantly, he knows Barton.
In his own words:
“It doesn’t bother me. Clearly Joey regrets what occurred but I’m all about looking forwards.
“I really enjoy his company. He’s not the guy a lot of people believe him to be. He’s made mistakes in the past but so has everybody.
“He’s box office. If we want to increase the profile of the football club he’ll certainly do that.
“He’s very intelligent, he’s an excellent communicator, has huge energy levels and is very driven. He has all the attributes to be a top coach.
“He’s going to be raw, I understand that. There’s an responsibility on me and the other people at the football club to assist him. But I think he can take us right to the top of League One.
“He’s been managing in dressing rooms for years. He’s a leader. I think he can go on to blossom into one of the top coaches in the UK, and who knows, even Europe.”
If anyone is qualified to judge Bartons suitability, its him. Nepotism? Yeah, maybe, but racism? Absolutely not.
(3) Gerrard and Lampard ARE more relevant. They stuck around longer, won more, were higher profile. Nothing to do with race.
(4) Quite possiblynot a popular one here, but I do not want or like the Rooney rule. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
(5) It doesnt show discrimination. It shows two people focused on building a management career, including the contacts, profile, background etc required, and one who is an utter bellend and lunatic who expects it to be offered on a plate.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Well, yes.
In effect it means only that people of colour need to be interviewed, if the outcome is a white candidate then so be it.
Which also makes it pointless, really.
Neither did they go mental and disappear at half time, go hiding whenever it came to derby day or generally show that they are clearly unfit for any job which entails even the smallest amount of pressure.