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Like him or not, Sherwood was bang on the money
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nerdved
Anthony Gardner
In my opinion, no. There are more aspects to this than league position in six months.
Can't agree with any of that. Starting to play quite well? That is revisionism at its worst. We were looking more and more disjointed.
Nonsense. He made his own bed. Or rather, dug his own grave. Top four finishes under Tim? In his own words: 'Wake up'.
That was after the chelsea game wasn't it? I liked Sherwood and think he should have been given another year unless we got someone proven... But after the Chelsea game he should have cu nted the ref in the interviews and then gone into the dressing room and said what he had to, explaining that giving up ain't acceptable and he deflected the heat for them, and poor referring should never lead to a capitulation.
No to say we weren't playing well is revisionism. In Sherwood's 6 months in charge we scored 3 goals in more league games then we did in the combined time of avb and pouch. And that included avb with uber bale for a season.
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
I don't watch F1, but being Northern Irish I do know a fair bit about Eddie Irvine. Slightly off topic but that way of thinking seems to be a very 'Northern Irish' trait indeed i.e George Best's famous quote when asked about his money 'I spent all my money on fast cars and women, the rest I just wasted'.
Totally agree with you on the type of player you want. Ronaldo being probably the best example currently. Part of the problem for us is that if they have talent and this attitude then they tend to stand out and are taken off us after one or two seasons of brilliance. If we do truely stand by Poch (which I think we should) our youth system might be his best bet of developing these types of players. Take the most talented ones whilst they are young and impressionable and force this attitude into them then.
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Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Sure way to poke the bear(s) on GG the morning after a poor result, praise Tim Sherwood.
Tim could have done ok if he wasn't as outspoken as he was. Clearly from the Harry Redknapp school of thinking out loud, he just said and still says things which make ou think "oh shut up". Like number 10's don't score goals.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt"
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Fek Tim. It was his job to change the mentality. He didn't have long but had completely battered the players in public. No way of strengthening their mentality.
He is in the past. Now it is up to Poch to address this issue. He has time from me and hopefully from the upper echelons of the club. Assess the squad, make changes where necessary. Get it right. If next season we still look fragile then he will need to be asked questions.
He is in the past. Now it is up to Poch to address this issue. He has time from me and hopefully from the upper echelons of the club. Assess the squad, make changes where necessary. Get it right. If next season we still look fragile then he will need to be asked questions.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
This made me laugh, this clown is one of the ****ing worst
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...udi Sportswashing Machine-united-9820630.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...udi Sportswashing Machine-united-9820630.html
thfcsteff
George Hunt
If a manager doesn't know how to protect a player in public yet correct him behind the scenes without feeling the driving need to cover his own **** in front of media pals, then he should do one away from his place of employment as soon as possible. A thoroughly untrustworthy environment gets created in such situations, and he got far worse after this. His joke at Lamela's expense ("Que?") was the final straw for me. We could go down to the conference and I'd be delighted he isn't in charge! If he was the 'right answer' then I don't ever want to be right.
Bull****.
It was what the doctor ordered. Anyone else does it (and some top managers have) and you would praise them.
He nailed the players and a lot of spurs fans turned on him and instead backed our star players, saying he couldn't handle top level management.
Look at the likes of sandro, vert, soldado now and tell me he wasn't 100% spot on about our attitude. He was a bit of a mug in how we went about things but my word did he talk a lot of sense.
He did not single out one player and did not leave anyone out to try. He dropped who he had to and gave a blunt warning to our squad.
Look at how detestable our team/squad is.... Probably the weakest and most unlikeable bunch in decades. He called what was wrong and now people are beginning to see what he said was right.
No, there isn't.
It was just spacegoating from a pathetic, gutless, brainless coward. PL chairmen clearly all agree with us too seeing as the closest he could get to another job was 4th choice for Palace. Whilst those players (injuries aside) are all PL footballers.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
He absolutely counted players in public later. I could spend time digging through but unless challenged I won't ;-)
It is a squad right now crying out for leadership.
As for 'he was right' let's be honest, it's like proclaiming that a fortune cookie spouts previously unseen wisdom. Anyone who has supported this club for any significant amount of time would tell you that we often lack leadership, and I think it was pretty clear last season that with SEVEN new players, continuity was never going to be immediate.
Being right is not the issue for me here. I knew what he was saying before he took the ****ing job, I wanted him to help change it!!!!! How was it handled? What was done? And sadly, it was an exercise in continual rase-covering and blame-shifting, which towards the end bordered on rude and ludicrous.
p.s. posted in the spirit of vigorous debate, nothing personal matey.
You reckon? This isn't 2011, sandro is finished as a player, yet we love him for being the club joker..... Well walking around like you run the show, put questionable effort into training (the guy was fat last last season) and then
Haha Steff I remember well your views on Sherwood and completely repect them but can't help but disagree with certain bits.
I really don't think he's as bad as many care to portray on here, but noone is going to budge on their views on this subject that's for sure....
thfcsteff
George Hunt
;-)
To be fair I tried hard to be open-minded and give him respect and 'width' so-to-speak...but alas he did me in early with his ways.
.......Overtly/covertly show disrespect to a manger on the training pitch (whoever he is, is frankly disgusting).
Same with jan.
And look Poch got rid of sandro early doors and jan isn't fancied. Clearly Poch speaks to enough people at the club to know what others say about the players. Two different managers who saw the same evil that has gripped the squad.
Oh and soldado? The laziness and lack of work rate he shows on a sat may as well be Monday - Friday. His acclimatisation has taken over a year? Guys picking up a wage a bill who tweet #coys and we think they are committed?
Our squad is a joke mate
Same with jan.
And look Poch got rid of sandro early doors and jan isn't fancied. Clearly Poch speaks to enough people at the club to know what others say about the players. Two different managers who saw the same evil that has gripped the squad.
Oh and soldado? The laziness and lack of work rate he shows on a sat may as well be Monday - Friday. His acclimatisation has taken over a year? Guys picking up a wage a bill who tweet #coys and we think they are committed?
Our squad is a joke mate