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Ledley King

Here is a thought. If it was not for Delap ruining his career, I really have doubts in wither Ledley would have stayed with us.

So do we hate Delap, or do we 'thank' him in a weird kind of way ?
 
Wriggly said:
Here is a thought. If it was not for Delap ruining his career, I really have doubts in wither Ledley would have stayed with us.

So do we hate Delap, or do we 'thank' him in a weird kind of way ?
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do we blame Delap or the surgeon who did that first operation. Maybe if he did a proper job Ledley wouldnt have had any problems. Footballers get injured, have ops, all the time, but the majority get fixed and continue on without any issues.
 
Wriggly said:
Here is a thought. If it was not for Delap ruining his career, I really have doubts in wither Ledley would have stayed with us.

So do we hate Delap, or do we 'thank' him in a weird kind of way ?
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I don't think we do either. But you're right, if it wasn't for his injury problems we would have probably been snapped up by a bigger club.
 
indianspur said:
do we blame Delap or the surgeon who did that first operation. Maybe if he did a proper job Ledley wouldnt have had any problems. Footballers get injured, have ops, all the time, but the majority get fixed and continue on without any issues.
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'the majority'


Is a load of crap without considering the type of injury sustained. Pretty sure ACL ruptures don't continue on without any issues.
 
Spursalot said:
'the majority'


Is a load of crap without considering the type of injury sustained. Pretty sure ACL ruptures don't continue on without any issues.
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An ACL reconstruction with the right physio will generally get it back to 100%.
 
uksb said:
An ACL reconstruction with the right physio will generally get it back to 100%.
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Not a chance, once an ACL has gone once it will never be at 100% ever again.


Plus the ACL is just an example.
 
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An ACL reconstruction with the right physio will generally get it back to 100%.
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In certain cases, not all (depending on age - ie. sub 20-22) - but also the susceptibility to another similar one in the very same spot are more than double.

Or in other words - becomes a considerable weak spot.
 
uksb said:
You'd better tell that to my knee then because it disagrees.
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:ross:


You're trying to use a subjective approach to determine that your knee performs at 100% effectiveness?


I'd much rather trust the word of numerous physiotherapists i've had conversations with.
 
Spursalot said:
:ross:


You're trying to use a subjective approach to determine that your knee performs at 100% effectiveness?


I'd much rather trust the word of numerous physiotherapists i've had conversations with.
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You said after an ACL reconstruction it will never be 100%. I can tell you - it can and is. And there are many professional athletes than have had the same operation and had no problems afterwards.
 
uksb said:
You said after an ACL reconstruction it will never be 100%. I can tell you - it can and is. And there are many professional athletes than have had the same operation and had no problems afterwards.
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'Having no problems' is not performing at 100%.

Speaking of someone who has recently damaged a ligament, and been told it will not be 100% ever again so i have to 'compensate' by strengthening my muscles, in all honesty i'd much rather trust professionals in the field than some random guy on the internet.
 
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Spursalot said:
'Having no problems' is not performing at 100%.

Speaking of someone who has recently damaged a ligament, and been told it will not be 100% ever again so i have to 'compensate' by strengthening my muscles, in all honesty i'd much rather trust professionals in the field than some random guy on the internet.
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I'm just going by personal experience, which is the best reference I have. However your original comment was:

"Pretty sure ACL ruptures don't continue on without any issues."

I believe most athletes that have a successful surgery and full recovery come back without any issues. i.e. no swelling, pain, loss in performance etc
 
uksb said:
I'm just going by personal experience, which is the best reference I have. However your original comment was:

"Pretty sure ACL ruptures don't continue on without any issues."

I believe most athletes that have a successful surgery and full recovery come back without any issues. i.e. no swelling, pain, loss in performance etc
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Exactly.

I'd rather trust professionals on something like this, because their well, professionals.
 
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uksb said:
You said after an ACL reconstruction it will never be 100%. I can tell you - it can and is. And there are many professional athletes than have had the same operation and had no problems afterwards.
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How do you know it is 100%? All you can know is that it is fully functional for what you use it for and what you used it for before. The demands on a professional footballer are a lot more severe than on most of us.

Many athletes come back from the injury and do very well. That doesn't mean that it's 100% and that there is no lasting limitation. In reality there will be a continuum between severely impaired and nearly 100%. We can't really blame the surgeon or Delap for it being the former type.

P.S. I'm sure I've read that with Ledley it was a congenital condition (impaired cartilage/connective tissue?.
 
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