Jose Mourinho - SACKED

[billyiddo]

I can't blame Mourinho for the result and he is dead right to be critical of the individual mistakes for costing us the game - i think it's wrong to blame the defense or individuals in games when we aren't creating at the other end but that wasn't the case today, he set us up with the right intent and the players in possession done the business, only for the defence to throw it away time after time. So this one, for once, is on them.

 

[DubaiSpur]

He needs to be tossed regardless.

But, tbh, this wasn't on him, it was on Lloris, Sanchez, Doherty....and Winks.

 

[billyiddo]

Edit : HOWEVER (and i expect some pelters here) i think the fact the response is always to be tactically more defensive in response to such poor performances means that the players never actually learn how to improve their game/play as a unit in a more expressive team - we'll likely see a response similar to that of the West Ham game, super low block, bodies behind the ball - and then goals conceded will go down and eventually so will goals scored and then we'll be back to square 1. We need to work on the team on training field, not retreat in to our shells at the first sign of a wobble.

 

[Raziel]

kudos to @DubaiSpur and @billyiddo

We may or may not agree on Jose, but hard to put this one on him .. you score 4 goals away from home, boatload of chances, majority of possession, you should win.

 

[Raziel]

Edit : HOWEVER (and i expect some pelters here) i think the fact the response is always to be tactically more defensive in response to such poor performances means that the players never actually learn how to improve their game - we'll likely see a response similar to that of the West Ham game, super low block, bodies behind the ball - goals conceded will go down, eventually so will goals scored and then we'll be back to square 1.

Lets see ..

 

[Baleforce]

Edit : HOWEVER (and i expect some pelters here) i think the fact the response is always to be tactically more defensive in response to such poor performances means that the players never actually learn how to improve their game - we'll likely see a response similar to that of the West Ham game, super low block, bodies behind the ball - goals conceded will go down, eventually so will goals scored and then we'll be back to square 1.

it's City next, it would still be a low block had all 9 goals been scored by us tonight

our defence needs to be n+1, where n is the number of defenders we have on the pitch

 

[Finney Is Back]

Really needed a CB last summer. After RB it seemed the biggest priority.

RB wasn’t really a priority. Aurier is a good right back. LB was a bigger priority as Davies has nothing top 10 PL about him and Regulion is a huge upgrade there.

our first two signings in the summer need to be CBs. Tarkowski + 1. Tah could be a decent shout as (I think) Danish has advocated. I’d like us to get Tosin Adarabioyo from Fulham and if we get a player with a good amount of PL experience like Tarkowski then I think we could afford to go with a young player like that.

 

[billyiddo]

it's City next, it would still be a low block had all 9 goals been scored by us tonight

our defence needs to be n+1, where n is the number of defenders we have on the pitch

City game in the grand scheme means little atm, i said after West Brom i consider it a free hit for him with Everton & West Ham being the important fixtures to show he can turn around the poor form.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Well that’s the “still in 3 Cups” line done away with.

 

[Finney Is Back]

City game in the grand scheme means little atm, i said after West Brom i consider it a free hit for him with Everton & West Ham being the important fixtures to show he can turn around the poor form.

West Ham will be a very big game now.

 

[billyiddo]

kudos to @DubaiSpur and @billyiddo

We may or may not agree on Jose, but hard to put this one on him .. you score 4 goals away from home, boatload of chances, majority of possession, you should win.

As well we could be in danger of just over analysing a cup game - these sorts of performances crop up from time to time.

 

[Raziel]

As well we could be in danger of just over analysing a cup game - these sorts of performances crop up from time to time.

Said it in match thread, you can't plan or compensate for 3+ individual fudge ups in a game.

This one is on the errors, the analysis comes with what do you do? do we really call it quits on some of these players this summer?

 

[billyiddo]

Well that’s the “still in 3 Cups” line done away with.

if i wanted to be an arse I'd highlight that Jose's here to get results not play how we want him to, so by his own metric the positives are unimportant this evening

 

[Finney Is Back]

He needs to be tossed regardless.

But, tbh, this wasn't on him, it was on Lloris, Sanchez, Doherty....and Winks.

And Davies.... that was one of the worst displays of football I have seen from any player, ever. Did nothing defensively and our moves broke down every time he got it in attacking positions.

I think Hojbjerg also has to get pelters tonight. Two goals directly down to him and we were cruising before Everton’s first one.

 

[billyiddo]

Said it in match thread, you can't plan or compensate for 3+ individual fudge ups in a game.

This one is on the errors, the analysis comes with what do you do? do we really call it quits on some of these players this summer?

If we stay with Mourinho then yes we probably have to, i don't think he's going to work on the training pitch to make them better players, they either sink or swim in his set up - if they sink he needs new players.

 

[DubaiSpur]

And Davies.... that was one of the worst displays of football I have seen. Did nothing defensively and our moves broke down every time he got it in attacking positions.

I think Hojbjerg also has to get pelters tonight. Two goals directly down to him and we were cruising before Everton’s first one.

Yeah, but Davies has never been anything other than average. He knows it, we know it, club knows it.

First choice is Reggy, always will be - provided he doesn't do foolish things or get injured, both of which he sadly has done.

 

[Raziel]

If we stay with Mourinho then yes we probably have to, i don't think he's going to work on the training pitch to make them better players, they either sink or swim in his set up - if they sink he needs new players.

Not trying to go on a tangent here, but you think another coach can do something with Sanchez, Dier, Winks and Sissoko?

 

[SteveAWOL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1359636766836277248

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

Yeah, but Davies has never been anything other than average. He knows it, we know it, club knows it.

First choice is Reggy, always will be - provided he doesn't do foolish things or get injured, both of which he sadly has done.

Exactly, Davies is a squad player it’s just that Rose committed career suicide and Reguilon seems to have the same fitness as our illustrious Argentines, so Davies has had to play virtually every game for a couple of years.

 

[parklane1]

Busy summer coming up for us this year, we all know we have to get a CB in but we really need to start looking for a keeper. Lloris has been great for us ( imo) only Jennings and Clemence have been better then him but the mistakes are mounting up and i do not see that changing.