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Jan Vertonghen

braineclipse said:
Actual qualified doctors have said repeatedly that they can't assess if someone has a concussion or not in minutes. That there should be a precaution.

If he's properly examined and fine to play again soon, fair enough. But I don't think that happens in minutes on the sideline.
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Surely it’s a case of needing to be 100% sure the player isn’t concussed or they have to come off?
 
braineclipse said:
Actual qualified doctors have said repeatedly that they can't assess if someone has a concussion or not in minutes. That there should be a precaution.

If he's properly examined and fine to play again soon, fair enough. But I don't think that happens in minutes on the sideline.
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Don’t disagree but unless someone’s a doctor their not qualified to “assume” a player has concussion are they?
 
galeforce said:
Surely it’s a case of needing to be 400% sure the player isn’t concussed or they have to come off?
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Now that i agree with m
Just want to add it was a bad nose bleed and the blood seemed to be why the ref was checking him coming on

What happened when Messi had his nose bleed vs United?
 
he passed the tests for concussion, he was asked if he could continue, said he thought he could, and then came over woozy. Doesn't mean he's concussed, he could simply have had a really painful bash on the schnozz - which is often enough to leave most people feeling pretty unwell.
 
Google "Second Impact Syndrome"

Anyone who has suffered a concussion is as risk or serious brain damage if they get another blow to the head within a few week.

Of course he will be playing next even though he is in danger. Absolute disgrace.
 
Modric THFC said:
Google "Second Impact Syndrome"

Anyone who has suffered a concussion is as risk or serious brain damage if they get another blow to the head within a few week.

Of course he will be playing next even though he is in danger. Absolute disgrace.
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He didn't have a bash on the head though did he?
 
Surfless said:
he passed the tests for concussion, he was asked if he could continue, said he thought he could, and then came over woozy. Doesn't mean he's concussed, he could simply have had a really painful bash on the schnozz - which is often enough to leave most people feeling pretty unwell.
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It’s what he said happened

Did he was fine then felt sick
 
Jan Vertonghen has undergone further assessment today (Wednesday 1 May) after sustaining a head injury in last night's Champions League semi-final first leg against Ajax. He also suffered a small cut to his nose that was bleeding heavily.

The Belgium defender was assessed on the pitch yesterday immediately after the incident with our medical team strictly following Football Association concussion guidelines.

Following testing he was judged to be alert and answered all questions correctly and lucidly, deeming him fit to return to the field of play.

All available video footage was relayed to our on-pitch medical team and they were able to confirm that he had suffered no loss of consciousness.

Jan was immediately withdrawn as a result of the player informing medical staff that symptoms were developing suddenly and that he no longer felt stable standing up.

Tests today have been clear and testing will continue for the next few days. Additionally, as is standard Club policy with certain injuries, we shall also be seeking independent advice and Jan is due to see a neurologist, who specialises in elite athletes, tomorrow. The player has reported no ill-effects today.
 
The NFL, where there are far more concussions, has a better protocol for head injuries, including sticking the dazed player in a tent away from the glare of cameras and thousands of supporters. The primary concern must be about player safety and if that means a player is withdrawn for a check then they are either substituted for the rest of the match or FIF/UEFA look ta ways of using a temporary sub until the player is deemed fit to return to play.
 
90291Spur said:
The NFL, where there are far more concussions, has a better protocol for head injuries, including sticking the dazed player in a tent away from the glare of cameras and thousands of supporters. The primary concern must be about player safety and if that means a player is withdrawn for a check then they are either substituted for the rest of the match or FIF/UEFA look ta ways of using a temporary sub until the player is deemed fit to return to play.
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But it took them years to get to this stage, before they were terrible.. Dismissed the whole thing outright in the 90's iirc as a non-event.
Football has gotten better, but there is so much more that can (and should) be done.
 
Trixster said:
But it took them years to get to this stage, before they were terrible.. Dismissed the whole thing outright in the 90's iirc as a non-event.
Football has gotten better, but there is so much more that can (and should) be done.
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Yes it did, but that's no reason why FIFA shouldn't take quick action. For the NFL it took years and lawsuits and millions of dollars in payouts. But they got there. And many footballers have sustained brain trauma over the years and they should be protected.
 
90291Spur said:
Yes it did, but that's no reason why FIFA shouldn't take quick action. For the NFL it took years and lawsuits and millions of dollars in payouts. But they got there. And many footballers have sustained brain trauma over the years and they should be protected.
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Indeed, and wasn't disputing that )
Just because footballers generally don't rush headfirst into a tackle, take note Zidane, doesn't give FIFA an excuse for not doing more about the rules for disorientated/concussed players during a match or how they are affected after the incidents.

Yearly checks on players who got sparked out totally should happen imo, not sure if they already do - but if not then there should be.

Players are the last people to say their OK, if I was in Jan's position last night then no way I'd want to be coming off. Not till it got to the point, like Jan, where you realise "Oh brick, I am fOOked"
 
Jordinho said:
Jan Vertonghen has undergone further assessment today (Wednesday 1 May) after sustaining a head injury in last night's Champions League semi-final first leg against Ajax. He also suffered a small cut to his nose that was bleeding heavily.

The Belgium defender was assessed on the pitch yesterday immediately after the incident with our medical team strictly following Football Association concussion guidelines.

Following testing he was judged to be alert and answered all questions correctly and lucidly, deeming him fit to return to the field of play.

All available video footage was relayed to our on-pitch medical team and they were able to confirm that he had suffered no loss of consciousness.

Jan was immediately withdrawn as a result of the player informing medical staff that symptoms were developing suddenly and that he no longer felt stable standing up.

Tests today have been clear and testing will continue for the next few days. Additionally, as is standard Club policy with certain injuries, we shall also be seeking independent advice and Jan is due to see a neurologist, who specialises in elite athletes, tomorrow. The player has reported no ill-effects today.
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Good to hear, but surely no way he should be playing within a week.

It’s too important, we’ll just have to manage.
 
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