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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

If you want to watch a sport with morals then watch the Olympics or Rugby. Football has left these ideals behind 70 years ago. Dramatically reacting to being hit in the face is not even close to being classed as cheating.
 
Caitano said:
If you want to watch a sport with morals then watch the Olympics or Rugby. Football has left these ideals behind 70 years ago. Dramatically reacting to being hit in the face is not even close to being classed as cheating.
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Olympics, best drugs win.
Rugby, that sport that had a player and coach banned for feigning injury by cutting himself?
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Whether people know the difference between right and wrong. Is it right to cheat? Yes or no. Most seem to think it's ok to cheat if you or your friends/interest benefits from it, I don't. The fact is once you let it go it just gets worse, its worrying that few can see this.
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I'm partly with you, as explained in the "love for Spurs"-thread. I don't like this behaviour, but I reluctantly accept that it's "part of the game". And THAT'S what's annoying me, that cheating is allowed to be part of a sport. I cannot think of any other sport on the planet where cheating is not only accepted, but institutionalized. Diving and cheating on modern scale (as in EPL-era), paired with referee harrassing, were the trademarks of two teams in particular, and they benefitted massively from it as they shared everything between them for 15 years, one of which we met today. Spurs was firmly on the other end of the scale, and was penalized time and time again for being nice boys and not make any fuss, neither on the pitch nor in the media. The harshest critique of our first real "diver" (not counting Klinsmann), Gareth Bale, came from his own.

This is why I wouldn't follow football if it weren't for Spurs, it's part of what it takes to win. I don't like it, as a matter of fact I hate it, but I accept it and think we should do it as everybody else is doing it. The playing field has to be even. It's like refusing to adopt the still ridiculous-looking V-style in ski jumping, you'll look "proper" and stylish, but you won't gain anything but bursted blood vessels.
 
braineclipse said:
It's interesting what different people see as "cheating".

To me there's a difference between overreacting to a real foul that should be punished and simulation.

Going down easily, going down to fouls that wouldn't ever bring a footballer to the ground, happens every game. Is that cheating?

Shirt pulling isn't allowed I think, it happens every game. Is it cheating?

Obstructing a free kick isn't within the rules I think, would it have been cheating to stand in front of the ball or kick it away five yards before Kane played in Son?

Unless someone manages to produce a genocidal answer to these questions a comparison to slavery is irrelevant.
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Claiming a throw in or corner when you saw who it came off should be red card offense. Cheats out ;)
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
On my own here but I thought it was disgraceful, not what I expect from a Tottenham Hotspur player.
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It was disgraceful and not what I expect from a Tottenham Hotspur player, however it has happened to us so many times that at a certain point, it is inevitable we will engage. Mourinho has been the catalyst. We're going back to the Bale arguments from 2012/13 here. Martial was stupid, Lamela brick-house. I am happy to accept that, accept the decision, enjoy the result and move on. It is the same as soft pens for contact, we are at a place where if you put your hands on a player in the box, or go to ground, you are asking the ref to make a decision. In fact, truth be told, it is arguable that Taylor should've also given us a pen!
 
nayenezgani said:
You wouldn't go down if you were punched in the chin? Stick your head out and I'll have a swing for you.
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This is the level I expect from someone who thinks unsporting behaviour is fine if your team do it. I expect you could knock me down as I'm in my 70s and have to walk with a stick for support. I'm sorry.
 
glasgowspur said:
Olympics, best drugs win.
Rugby, that sport that had a player and coach banned for feigning injury by cutting himself?
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I meant in week in, week out they are more moralistic as in they respect the officials more and opposition.

My main point is I don't think that level of respect has been in football for a long time.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Fcuk him the wife beating iron bru drinking tw*t.
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In 1985, I found myself at Tramps for a lig. Early days of my career and all that...Souness was at the bar. I was still so angry over his filthy assault on Galvin in '82, that I squeezed past people up behind him at the bar, shouted c-u-n-t loudly and promptly made sure I hid behind someone as he looked around with a flash of anger in his eye. C-u-n-t!
 
Caitano said:
I meant in week in, week out they are more moralistic as in they respect the officials more and opposition.

My main point is I don't think that level of respect has been in football for a long time.
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its fake though, if they respected the opposition they wouldn’t dope themselves to the gills, which is rife in every professional sport
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
This is the level I expect from someone who thinks unsporting behaviour is fine if your team do it. I expect you could knock me down as I'm in my 70s and have to walk with a stick for support. I'm sorry.
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Fair play mate. Football has changed though and Spurs brickhousery is decades behind the rest of the league. It’s just nice to be on the “right” side of it for once.
 
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