Baleforce
Les Bennett
You think they should?
Yeah, if they are putting themselves in danger being the only one who jumps, don't jump.
You think they should?
You get that with tackles too though. Players getting their body in the way meaning that the tackler has to go through them to get the ball, and it can be dangerous. And with duels for contested balls on the floor.For me it does. The guy jumping for the header is making an attempt to play the ball and if the opposing player decides to just stand there, the fella going for the header is going to win it every time. So Kane's is not an honest attempt to play the ball because he's giving himself absolutely no chance to win it.
Instead, what Kane is doing, and you can clearly see it on the West Ham one, is taking a look at where the other player is and positioning himself so he'll be hit. He's even protecting himself and going down before he feels the contact. It's poor form which is fair enough because so may players are dishonest. The difference here is that it's dangerous.
It’s dangerous. A player could end up with a broken neck falling like that. Harry’s not being malicious or trying to cause injury - he’s just trying to buy a foul. But it’s dangerous. Players are running and jumping for headers, he’s getting in their way to draw contact and it’s throwing them dangerously off balance.
If the rules changed on this, I would be telling players to get into the air every time we put a ball into the box and look for contact with a standing defender.
Which would also not be an honest attempt to play the ball...same as Kane is doing.
If the rules changed on this, I would be telling players to get into the air every time we put a ball into the box and look for contact with a standing defender.
It’s hard to express all what I want to say in English but I will try, we have to differentiate between different situations, if a player from a standing position or moving jumps for the ball and then Kane “ as example ) challenge him while he Is in the air push his leg or waist this situation is foul for the other player. But if Kane put his body in the position between the player and the ball before he jumps and doesn’t lean or bridging the player a foul is for Kane.
I’ll just add... never ever apologise for your English and your effort to write in another language. It’s hard enough for those of us who have English as our mother tongueIt’s hard to express all what I want to say in English but I will try, we have to differentiate between different situations, if a player from a standing position or moving jumps for the ball and then Kane “ as example ) challenge him while he Is in the air push his leg or waist this situation is foul for the other player. But if Kane put his body in the position between the player and the ball before he jumps and doesn’t lean or bridging the player a foul is for Kane.
I’ll just add... never ever apologise for your English and your effort to write in another language. It’s hard enough for those of us who have English as our mother tongue
I’ll have you know I’m a MarxistHear, hear but I know you weren't capable of writing that yourself and lifted it from the Millwall message board.
Would be hard to talk like an EgyptianI’ll just add... never ever apologise for your English and your effort to write in another language. It’s hard enough for those of us who have English as our mother tongue
I’ll just add... never ever apologise for your English and your effort to write in another language. It’s hard enough for those of us who have English as our mother tongue
Would be hard to talk like an Egyptian
It is impossible to judge intent in a situation like that. If a player jumps towards the path of the ball and makes contact with a standing player, it would be a foul and a pelanty. I think that a rule change on this is a potential minefield and could end up being more dangerous than the problem you are trying to fix.
There's no bigger Harry fan than me. I love the guy. I love his dedication, his professionalism and what he can do on the pitch. I’m certainly not saying he’s a dirty player. He’s not trying to do anyone, he’s trying to buy a foul. But by doing it, he is risking opposition players’ safety. He does dive but so does every other striker in the league. And I give Salad and Mane stick for it but Kane does it as well and so does Alli.
The point here is that he’s done the same thing three times in the last 6 weeks and it’s dangerous. If he keeps doing it, sooner or later we’ll have an opposition player with a broken neck or another player might do it to one of our players.
Neither, importantly, is he obliged to jump in order to contest the ball.
He is in position waiting for the ball. If other players want to take that space from him then any potential injury or free kick is at their risk.