General Transfer Rumour Discussion Thread

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

I define lower level with the example would you be happy to see Spurs Ladies 1st team play against Stoke on Saturday?. I agree the sportsmanship would be of a higher standard but as there is virtually no sportsmanship in professional sport thats not a very high hurdle to clear. If the number of people interested in a particular sport/pastime drives what gets national coverage we should have more fishing on the tele. I fully admit to being out of step with the modern world where virtually everyones goal is to appear on tv or be a celebrity based on being weird.

 

[parklane1]

Its down to all this PC brick that seems to have taken over.

 

[GrimsbyYid]

I don't think Women's football is much better than non league. They would definitely struggle to beat anyone from Rymans up. I stopped watching the world cup because of its over hyped bull. Seriously the commentators were comparing the Japanese side as Barcelona! LOL

Technically they are superior, the physical side would be the leveller though.

Also what ignoramus' don't understand is, is that it's a relatively new sport for women, professionally, I'm sure we all went to school and girls barely played football, I'm sure it's the case today; how is the game supposed to improve with those attitudes? Bringing it to prominence will only improve the game as a whole and the womens games has incredible room for improvement as more people play, more money goes into it and its infrastructure. Sexist flimflam has stopped it for so long, it's 2015, no excuse for it now!

 

[SpursNorway]

who is the better Bender, Lars or Sven?

I rate Lars higher. IMO he's got better ability in the offensive part of the game than his twinbrother, runs a bit more and has about the same ability when it comes to doing the dirty work. We would get a very good DM/CM if we sign either of them, but Lars would be mye prefered option. I guess he would cost a bit more than Sven though.

 

[Superhudd]

Technically they are superior, the physical side would be the leveller though.

Also what ignoramus' don't understand is, is that it's a relatively new sport for women, professionally, I'm sure we all went to school and girls barely played football, I'm sure it's the case today; how is the game supposed to improve with those attitudes? Bringing it to prominence will only improve the game as a whole and the womens games has incredible room for improvement as more people play, more money goes into it and its infrastructure. Sexist hogwash has stopped it for so long, it's 2015, no excuse for it now!

As with any sport, if the spectacle is good enough people will watch, if its forced fed down peoples throats they will reject.

For me, it was an absolute travesty we were force fed this world cup, when the Copa America was on.

The simple fact is though, women's football is cheaper than table tennis to put on our screens, this is what is pushing this, Sky has lost a lot of programming recently and they see this as filling the gaps for peanuts. Maybe the BBC has more of a political angle in its drive but money would have been the defining reason Women's world cup over Copa America.

As for technically superior. I find that wrong, having watched some of the games in the world cup, they definitely were not superior.

 

[NWND]

As with any sport, if the spectacle is good enough people will watch, if its forced fed down peoples throats they will reject.

For me, it was an absolute travesty we were force fed this world cup, when the Copa America was on.

The simple fact is though, women's football is cheaper than table tennis to put on our screens, this is what is pushing this, Sky has lost a lot of programming recently and they see this as filling the gaps for peanuts. Maybe the BBC has more of a political angle in its drive but money would have been the defining reason Women's world cup over Copa America.

It's not being force-fed, though. You don't have to watch it. Sky/BBC/BT show lots of stuff I have no interest in watching. The FA has a programme of developing women's football, supported by government and the media. There's no problem in this. Greater exposure, means more sponsorship/financing, which means more grass-roots training, facilities, meaning that the standard becomes higher, meaning more people watch it and so on.

Look at where British cycling was a few years ago before equal investment. You may not have any interest in English women's football improving, but other people will want that to happen and be proud of the recent improvements being shown by the lionesses.

 

[hamer]

As with any sport, if the spectacle is good enough people will watch, if its forced fed down peoples throats they will reject.

For me, it was an absolute travesty we were force fed this world cup, when the Copa America was on.

The simple fact is though, women's football is cheaper than table tennis to put on our screens, this is what is pushing this, Sky has lost a lot of programming recently and they see this as filling the gaps for peanuts. Maybe the BBC has more of a political angle in its drive but money would have been the defining reason Women's world cup over Copa America.

As for technically superior. I find that wrong, having watched some of the games in the world cup, they definitely were not superior.

I think the crux of it is that the level of coverage from the media is disproportionate to the level of public interest, i.e. the market. Something similar occured after the Olympics, lead articles on athletics in the sports pages etc. One day Women's football may get the same level of market interest as Women's tennis for example, but that day is not right now. Barring the BBC the media are commercial entities, as with the athletics overkill I'd expect their coverage to scale back sooner rather than later, until the interest is driven by the public.

 

[GrimsbyYid]

As with any sport, if the spectacle is good enough people will watch, if its forced fed down peoples throats they will reject.

For me, it was an absolute travesty we were force fed this world cup, when the Copa America was on.

The simple fact is though, women's football is cheaper than table tennis to put on our screens, this is what is pushing this, Sky has lost a lot of programming recently and they see this as filling the gaps for peanuts. Maybe the BBC has more of a political angle in its drive but money would have been the defining reason Women's world cup over Copa America.

As for technically superior. I find that wrong, having watched some of the games in the world cup, they definitely were not superior.

You think the technical ability of the conference is better? Really? I watch grimsby a fair bit, easily one of the best teams in the league and I really don't think so. But it's all opinions I guess. Ultimately I don't even think it's that important.

 

[GrimsbyYid]

I think the crux of it is that the level of coverage from the media is disproportionate to the level of public interest, i.e. the market. Something similar occured after the Olympics, lead articles on athletics in the sports pages etc. One day Women's football may get the same level of market interest as Women's tennis for example, but that day is not right now. Barring the BBC the media are commercial entities, as with the athletics overkill I'd expect their coverage to scale back sooner rather than later, until the interest is driven by the public.

Thing is, this often ISN'T how it works. More people are aware of, are interested and will engage with womens football because of the coverage. Next time it'll get even bigger, exposure increases the demand.

 

[indianspur]

I rate Lars higher. IMO he's got better ability in the offensive part of the game than his twinbrother, runs a bit more and has about the same ability when it comes to doing the dirty work. We would get a very good DM/CM if we sign either of them, but Lars would be mye prefered option. I guess he would cost a bit more than Sven though.

you may be right

i found this from 2013

http://www.squawka.com/news/sven-vs-lars-which-brother-wins-the-battle-of-the-benders/12009

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

Most "Womens sport" is performed at a lower level than Mens sport, thats a fact. When it does reach that level it will deserve to get the media cover it gets in the sports section of the media, I see the current fad as either patronising (Oo didn't they do well for girls) or political correctness. I any section of sport needs media backing then it's disabled sport, but then bums and tits are better pictures than amputees and the blind.

I kinda know what you mean.

The results coverage of women's sport, especially on 5 Live, smacks to me of tokenism.

Maybe it's inherently sexist of me, it's hard to assess objectively, but it just feels to me like they haven't nailed the coverage of it, yet. It feels fawning and forced.

Of course, it is deserving of coverage and it's good to hear a female voice on shows like the Monday Night Club on 5 Live - there the female POV and input is much better handled and works well.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Anyway.... can we get away from women's sport and back to more important topics such as who likes/hates Soldado?

 

[r-u-s-x]

Yeah, you sound like utter nobs.... Shall we not cover women's tennis either because the men 300 in the world are better, or the same with any sport? Maybe, just maybe, and this will be hard to take into your undoubtedly ageing minds, but newspaper report in public interest, and people are infinitely more interested in women's football than East Lancashire Sunday league (really funny joke by the way). And it also shows how much you know about the sport (you wouldn't want enlighten your ignorant minds with actually educating yourselves after all) but women's football is is technically far better than that level, far far far better.

"Also what ignoramus' don't understand is, is that it's a relatively new sport for women, professionally, I'm sure we all went to school and girls barely played football, I'm sure it's the case today; how is the game supposed to improve with those attitudes? Bringing it to prominence will only improve the game as a whole and the womens games has incredible room for improvement as more people play, more money goes into it and its infrastructure. Sexist hogwash has stopped it for so long, it's 2015, no excuse for it now!"


Attendances for The FA Women’s Super League 1 increased by more than 30 per cent this season.
Following on from Sunday’s dramatic climax when Liverpool were crowned champions, the average league crowd was up to 728, compared to 562 in 2013.

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There is little to no demand apart from the really big events - there is no real demand for the news, no real interest. There is for women's tennis as it has been built up over decades. There is a push to televise / report where there is no real interest.

This is not a sexist argument, it is a new sport, well let it grow organically once there is a demand then push it. Do you think we should be reporting Skrill Conference teams as there is a similar level of interest.

This is what happened with Cycling due to the success of the Olympics and then the huge increase in participation followed by a lot more media notice.

Supply rarely drives demand -

 

[glasgowspur]

Women's sport is being pushed on TV because its affordable to non subscription channels.

 

[nayenezgani]

Only on gg do you get a debate about women's sport in a fudging transfer rumour thread.. Jesus H Christmas.

Take it to randomination lads.

 

[wiziwig]

I think Sherwood saw him as AVB's player. And Townsend's views on Sherwood have been well aired.

There might be some truth in the Saudi Sportswashing Machine story, but no way I can see him going to Villa

I missed those . What he say ?

 

[Raziel]

He's a hop and a skip away from his home country, will have a huge following in L.A., and probably make more money as a result. If he was Latvian, I would find it kinda odd too.

Money $$$ +LA's Mexican population is huge and they love him, had a ridiculous turnout of people at airport to greet him when they signed him.

Get's to play every game, and score lots ...

 

[parklane1]

What made those I know turn of a lot of the women's world cup was that muppet Johnathon Pearce screaming " what a great goal" " what a terrific pass" etc etc every 5 minutes.

 

[r-u-s-x]

What made those I know turn of a lot of the women's world cup was that muppet Johnathon Pearce screaming " what a great goal" " what a terrific pass" etc etc every 5 minutes.

And the goalkeeping...

In all seriousness think that there is an argument for smaller goals as on average they are a fair bit shorter

 

[Seedy Ron]

What made those I know turn of a lot of the women's world cup was that muppet Johnathon Pearce screaming " what a great goal" " what a terrific pass" etc etc every 5 minutes.

Yes he was dreadful, I was beginning to think he'd lost his mind due to the jet lag but he's probably always like that.

Whilst I agree that you can't make a sport popular just by acting like it is, I also don't think showing the pinnacle of the women's game on the BBC's minor channels (for the most part) and red button service is really ramming it down peoples throats, I think the interest justified the level of effort they put into it.