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Gay footballers

Daisuk

Daisuk

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Why is it such a taboo now? We're in 2013 for christ sake. Would you have a problem with either of our players coming out of the closet? According to Clarke Carlisle, at least 8 footballers have confided to him that they are gay, but are afraid to come out as gay because of fear of fan reactions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/05/gay-footballers-fear-reaction-of-fans

Much cred to Robbie Rogers, former Leeds player who came out as gay in February, who are now considering a comeback. It's about time football catches up with the rest of modern society.
 
I've wondered myself whether it is something inherent within player culture/the dressing rooms which stops homosexual players from coming out? Seeing as equality is spreading throughout the world and bigotry, in Western culture primarily, is becoming increasingly unacceptable.

Is it simply a case of a player not wanting to deal with crowd reaction to their sexuality. If we're being candid, there is no way on earth the idiot sect of most clubs wouldn't chant offensive songs or at the very least, 'poke fun' at a gay player.

Perhaps there's a worry that sponsors may be more reluctant to make a homosexual football player a figurehead in advertising, thus causing loss of potential earnings and endorsement? There is previous for people in the public-eye such as creatives, political figures and sporting stars hiding their sexual preferences for fear if it ending their careers or being judged.

Whatever the reason, it is something that should be tackled by the various footballing bodies to promote acceptance, equality and understanding.
 
AuroRaman said:
I've wondered myself whether it is something inherent within player culture/the dressing rooms which stops homosexual players from coming out? Seeing as equality is spreading throughout the world and bigotry, in Western culture primarily, is becoming increasingly unacceptable.

Is it simply a case of a player not wanting to deal with crowd reaction to their sexuality. If we're being candid, there is no way on earth the idiot sect of most clubs wouldn't chant offensive songs or at the very least, 'poke fun' at a gay player.

Perhaps there's a worry that sponsors may be more reluctant to make a homosexual football player a figurehead in advertising, thus causing loss of potential earnings and endorsement? There is previous for people in the public-eye such as creatives, political figures and sporting stars hiding their sexual preferences for fear if it ending their careers or being judged.

Whatever the reason, it is something that should be tackled by the various footballing bodies to promote acceptance, equality and understanding.
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This. I could easily imagine a stadium full of fans sing "Does your boyfriend know you're here?", as they used to do to Brighton fans
 
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COYS said:
This. I could easily imagine a stadium full of fans sing "Does your boyfriend know you're here?", as they used to do to Brighton fans
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Or what Palace used to sing :

dingdong Knight everynight, dingdong Knight, dingdong Knight every night to the Brighton chairman of once dingdong Knight...
 
i think people would be quite surprised at how little of a reaction it'd get nowadays. probably a bit of banter but i don't see that being a problem.

i guess as others have said it's probably more a dressing room thing
 
We've had a openly gay ref (John Blankenstein) and I don't remember there being major problems between him and abusive fans.
 
Daisuk said:
Why is it such a taboo now? We're in 2013 for christ sake. Would you have a problem with either of our players coming out of the closet? According to Clarke Carlisle, at least 8 footballers have confided to him that they are gay, but are afraid to come out as gay because of fear of fan reactions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/05/gay-footballers-fear-reaction-of-fans

Much cred to Robbie Rogers, former Leeds player who came out as gay in February, who are now considering a comeback. It's about time football catches up with the rest of modern society.
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Sulley yourself and go onto a Chelsea fan forum and ask the same question, there is your answer.
 
I think the football society has a bit of a throw back issue. More old school and traditional than alot of walks of life. As such you will have old school mentality

also the social economic divide between the environment that footballers are raised in and main stream population tend to have a split in culture and understanding

its a shame that they fear persecution but they are in an arena that is much slower to catch up with the way things are in main stream society, as such they should be careful
 
I suspect the vast majority of gay footballers are openly gay within their own teammates - it would be impossible to hide, I would've thought.
 
Four Four Two did an in-depth analysis of this a while back. They interviewed a lot of footballers across England, many of them in the Premier League, and on condition of anonymity, quite a few of them said they had known or were currently team-mates with a gay footballer, and that while they themselves didn't have a problem with it, apprehension about the reactions of the fans (many of whom are gits who will pick on the slightest perceived 'weakness') and the directors (many of whom are old, socially conservative men who fear negative media coverage and lost marketing revenue) would often combine to present an air of hostility towards the idea of a player publicly coming out.
 
I'm a bit torn on this issue. I can understand why a gay player wouldn't want to come out, and not just because of the potential abuse, but because of the complete and utter irrelevance. Whilst I appreciate the fact that they can be an incredible role model for young kids, why do we need to know? What difference does it make to anyone else?

I can't wait for the day when we don't give two bricks about someone coming out as gay. It shouldn't be news.
 
tommysvr said:
I'm a bit torn on this issue. I can understand why a gay player wouldn't want to come out, and not just because of the potential abuse, but because of the complete and utter irrelevance. Whilst I appreciate the fact that they can be an incredible role model for young kids, why do we need to know? What difference does it make to anyone else?

I can't wait for the day when we don't give two bricks about someone coming out as gay. It shouldn't be news.
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Very good points.
 
tommysvr said:
I'm a bit torn on this issue. I can understand why a gay player wouldn't want to come out, and not just because of the potential abuse, but because of the complete and utter irrelevance. Whilst I appreciate the fact that they can be an incredible role model for young kids, why do we need to know? What difference does it make to anyone else?

I can't wait for the day when we don't give two bricks about someone coming out as gay. It shouldn't be news.
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True, of course, but I think in the historical context of things (with Fashanu being driven to suicide for being openly gay), more openness about sexual orientation (especially in a time and age where celebrities are role models), couldn't hurt, on the contrary, it would hopefully make the footballing community at large more inviting and accepting of differences. Race doesn't have anything to do with football either, but I can imagine the massive Kick Racism Out of Football-campaign only having a good effect on a lot of young players and supporters.
 
Is it just me that's sick of Amal Fashanu banging on about this, she's raised awareness of it now with her documentary about Justin and the homophobia around the game, which was quite interesting, but I saw her on the telly again the other day saying how bad it is that a footballer hasn't come out since Justin, is she just going to keep popping up every few years until she's coerced some other footballer to come out?

I couldn't give a monkeys if a footballer is gay and I'm sure that 90% of fans wouldn't care either, the problem is that 10% that would use it to abuse them. What I don't understand is why she's so set on getting them all to come out of the closet. If they aren't ready to do so then leave them alone.
 
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justin fashanu is gay????!!!!:eek:

how did i not know this:-k
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was gay, he's dead now. In a time when it wasn't easy being a black player he was a gay black player, pictured with bimbo girls to convince the world and living a lie that eventually got too much to bear. Plus his family, John in particular, appears to be a massive c*nt. The documentary where he was interviewed by his daughter (?) showed him to be completely insensitive and showing no support for Justin's situation. A disgrace.
 
tommysvr said:
Whilst I appreciate the fact that they can be an incredible role model for young kids, why do we need to know? What difference does it make to anyone else?

I can't wait for the day when we don't give two bricks about someone coming out as gay. It shouldn't be news.
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This is also very true, but it's the society we live in. Unfortunately.

Hundreds of magazines devoted to which celebrity is shagging someone new or is getting fat, newspaper column inches about some reality TV idiot on holiday and their physique or their clothes. So, as sports folk are also celebrities, their lives are scrutinised at the same level by the same hypocrites who will be offended by scandals when it suits them. The Daily Mail, for example, goes on and on with outrage about paedophiles and then posts up pictures of a 16 yr old Angelina Jolie where you can see her nipples through the t-shirt (a few weeks back), or The Sun (I think) going on about the same sort of thing and posting a countdown to Charlotte Church's 16th birthday so she's legal. Pathetic.

Unfortunately, sex sells. A who's who of gay sportsmen and women is news because the audience they appeal to are just as empty-headed and ignorant. The individual person is smart, people in a group are stupid. Appealing to the curiosity of a wide range of people with salacious gossip has become a huge market for a wide range of publications. Sad.

It shouldn't be news but it will remain news until people stop buying all the brick magazines and newspapers.
 
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