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Gareth Bale
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Southcote Spur
Jason Dozzell
No, I am glad that he clapped the ref. Foy's performance at Stoke last year was one of the worse referring performances that I have ever seen.
As for the recent allegations made against Bale, I am going to make a case for his defence:
1. Aston Villa (H) - Bale genuinely believes that Guzan is going to make contact with him and takes evasive action. No foul, no appeal, game carries on.
2. Liverpool (H) - From my seat in the Paxton Road, Bale is running directly towards me when Agger clips him. Foul, free kick to Spurs.
3. Fulham (A) - Sidwell obstructs Bale. Foul, free kick to Spurs.
4. Charlie Adam - 3 previous offences to take into consideration, enough said.
5. If you run at speed and you get clipped, you will fall over. I am sure that there is a physics equation that proves this?
The fact of the matter is that all of this anti-Bale bulls**t will inevitably play a part in influencing him to leave these shores. It will be a sad day indeed for Spurs and the Premier League when Bale does eventually leave.
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Ilie Dumitrescu
Re: Gareth Bale
Its the thing that's wrong with football in the UK. The rough blood and guts side of the game is glorified whilst individual skill and technical brilliance is looked down on. How many times at sunday/saturday league were we told to "break that flash git" or if you were that flash git you were told to keep it simple instead. Whilst a crunching tackle was glorified even if it meant hurting the other player. Its why the likes of Parker are glorified because he works hard and sticks a foot it, whilst Bale is vilified due to theatrics being a small part of his amazing game. Spurs fans continuously getting on his back will be a major factor in him leaving.
Its the thing that's wrong with football in the UK. The rough blood and guts side of the game is glorified whilst individual skill and technical brilliance is looked down on. How many times at sunday/saturday league were we told to "break that flash git" or if you were that flash git you were told to keep it simple instead. Whilst a crunching tackle was glorified even if it meant hurting the other player. Its why the likes of Parker are glorified because he works hard and sticks a foot it, whilst Bale is vilified due to theatrics being a small part of his amazing game. Spurs fans continuously getting on his back will be a major factor in him leaving.
Re: Gareth Bale
I got no issue with Bale. I think they were both genuine fouls and Foy is a ****
I got no issue with Bale. I think they were both genuine fouls and Foy is a ****
Re: Gareth Bale
Of course not. But why respect a referee that doesn't earn that respect?
So you'd have been equally happy if he'd got himself sent off.
Of course not. But why respect a referee that doesn't earn that respect?
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: Gareth Bale
Its time a new rule was brought in, Refs clearly cannot judge whether it was or not a dive, therefore I suggest that instead of producing a yellow which if not guilty cannot be recinded, when a referee believes a player has dived he needs to go on report, rugby style for a referee panel to look at to give a yellow at a later point.
Its absolutely ridiculous we could have a player banned for a game because of referees not upto the challenge of spotting a dive or not.
Its time a new rule was brought in, Refs clearly cannot judge whether it was or not a dive, therefore I suggest that instead of producing a yellow which if not guilty cannot be recinded, when a referee believes a player has dived he needs to go on report, rugby style for a referee panel to look at to give a yellow at a later point.
Its absolutely ridiculous we could have a player banned for a game because of referees not upto the challenge of spotting a dive or not.
Re: Gareth Bale
Change the penalty to a 3 match ban and I think you're on to something.
Change the penalty to a 3 match ban and I think you're on to something.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Re: Gareth Bale
Add to that he is tall which means he has a high centre of gravity and therefore more likely to fall when clipped at speed. In Foy's defence apart from the bale error, I thought he had quite a good game by his low standards. A few crunching tackles from Sandro and shoulder barges went in and he let the game flow mostly.
Add to that he is tall which means he has a high centre of gravity and therefore more likely to fall when clipped at speed. In Foy's defence apart from the bale error, I thought he had quite a good game by his low standards. A few crunching tackles from Sandro and shoulder barges went in and he let the game flow mostly.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
Nothing to do with him wanting to play for one of the biggest teams in the world then? So should we just condone his diving then? Ok then, so the next time someone dives against us and wins a penalty, we have no right at all to complain about it, fair enough?
Nothing to do with him wanting to play for one of the biggest teams in the world then? So should we just condone his diving then? Ok then, so the next time someone dives against us and wins a penalty, we have no right at all to complain about it, fair enough?
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Gareth Bale
Jurgen he clearly did not dive today. Today on goals on sunday or whatever its called both Ginola and Kamara etc were stating how Bale was clearly not diving but merely evading the tackle
Jurgen he clearly did not dive today. Today on goals on sunday or whatever its called both Ginola and Kamara etc were stating how Bale was clearly not diving but merely evading the tackle
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
By all means, talk to the ref, ask the captain to have a word, but don't clap him for fudge sake. People who do that deserve a yellow card. It's for AVB to highlight Foy's inept performances in the media.
By all means, talk to the ref, ask the captain to have a word, but don't clap him for fudge sake. People who do that deserve a yellow card. It's for AVB to highlight Foy's inept performances in the media.
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The Spurs boss does not think Bale is diving and is merely taking evasive action to avoid injury, although he can understand how officials may get decisions wrong.
"Gareth is so fast so it is very difficult to judge situations," said Villas-Boas.
"He has suffered big, big injuries to his ankles before and sometimes he wants to protect himself a little bit.
"He might put his body in situations that the referee thinks that he is diving and he is suffering for it in these last two games.
"He is now very near suspension for two unfair yellow cards and I think you gain a reputation for being a diver unfairly sometimes.
"This player has suffered a lot in his career. It's a little bit harsh on him."
http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/8302835/Tottenham-boss-Andre-Villas-Boas-defends-Gareth-Bale-against-diving-accusations
The Spurs boss does not think Bale is diving and is merely taking evasive action to avoid injury, although he can understand how officials may get decisions wrong.
"Gareth is so fast so it is very difficult to judge situations," said Villas-Boas.
"He has suffered big, big injuries to his ankles before and sometimes he wants to protect himself a little bit.
"He might put his body in situations that the referee thinks that he is diving and he is suffering for it in these last two games.
"He is now very near suspension for two unfair yellow cards and I think you gain a reputation for being a diver unfairly sometimes.
"This player has suffered a lot in his career. It's a little bit harsh on him."
http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/8302835/Tottenham-boss-Andre-Villas-Boas-defends-Gareth-Bale-against-diving-accusations
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
Look, he was fouled, I'm not even arguing that, but why does he need to throw his arms in the air on the way to the ground? Just go down naturally. A similar thing happened when we played United this season. Nani was fouled in the box, but his overreaction cost him a penalty, Fergie even said the same thing after the game. Also, there are ways to avoid getting clattered without falling to the floor, not saying this applies to yeserday, but maybe jump over the tackle?
Look, he was fouled, I'm not even arguing that, but why does he need to throw his arms in the air on the way to the ground? Just go down naturally. A similar thing happened when we played United this season. Nani was fouled in the box, but his overreaction cost him a penalty, Fergie even said the same thing after the game. Also, there are ways to avoid getting clattered without falling to the floor, not saying this applies to yeserday, but maybe jump over the tackle?
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Gareth Bale
When you get tripped people do try to break their fall by spreading their arms. Also his running style means his arms are in the air anyways. It may be theatrical I dont know im not Bale and cant say for certain.
Yeah he does jump over tackle but more often than not youre jumping at pace so youre not gonna maintain your balance and Bale is funning at such speed he is never going to maintain his balance
He doesnt have four legs like a horse where he can maintain his balance after hurdling.
When you get tripped people do try to break their fall by spreading their arms. Also his running style means his arms are in the air anyways. It may be theatrical I dont know im not Bale and cant say for certain.
Yeah he does jump over tackle but more often than not youre jumping at pace so youre not gonna maintain your balance and Bale is funning at such speed he is never going to maintain his balance
He doesnt have four legs like a horse where he can maintain his balance after hurdling.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
Why does Charlie Adam's name get thrown into the discussion whenever Bale dives? I can't stand the guy either, but was he involved in the incident yesterday? I agree that the more skillful players do need protecting. On the whole, the game is cleaner than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Bale wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes playing against Souness or Ron Chopper Harris. Of course they are always going to be times when the dirty players get away with bad tackles, but we can all see fouls that are given as bookings that shouldn't be so it works both ways.
Some of our fans are as bad as Liverpool fans and Arsenal fans who defend Suarez, Gerrard, Henry and Pires.
Why does Charlie Adam's name get thrown into the discussion whenever Bale dives? I can't stand the guy either, but was he involved in the incident yesterday? I agree that the more skillful players do need protecting. On the whole, the game is cleaner than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Bale wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes playing against Souness or Ron Chopper Harris. Of course they are always going to be times when the dirty players get away with bad tackles, but we can all see fouls that are given as bookings that shouldn't be so it works both ways.
Some of our fans are as bad as Liverpool fans and Arsenal fans who defend Suarez, Gerrard, Henry and Pires.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
Who condems him? Most people on here and at WHL seem to do nothing but make excuses for him.
Who condems him? Most people on here and at WHL seem to do nothing but make excuses for him.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Re: Gareth Bale
Do you honestly think that if Bale played for Arsenal or any other club that Spurs fans would he doesn't dive?
Do you honestly think that if Bale played for Arsenal or any other club that Spurs fans would he doesn't dive?