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Gareth Bale

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billyiddo said:
Bale doesn't seem to be putting all his eggs in the Real Madrid basket - he wants to go but it doesn't sound like he will be throwing his toys out of the pram if it doesn't happen
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Bale will fail (I think). I give it two years. It will be a make or break seaosn or two for him. Especially if they get rid of Ronaldo to whoever Manure or Monaco etc.

At Spurs he will have had the fans behind him, the players supporting him, eyes would still be on him, he would have been hailed. At RM if he succeeds he will be one of the top three players in the world. If he fails he will be the choker.
 
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billyiddo said:
Bale doesn't seem to be putting all his eggs in the Real Madrid basket - he wants to go but it doesn't sound like he will be throwing his toys out of the pram if it doesn't happen
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He has remained silent throughout this whole saga, but his agent is definitely working on his behalf in regards to trying to engineer the move. Players are not children, even though footballers are not the brightest bunch, when it comes to football and their careers, they know what they are doing for the most part. I'm not expecting players to turn down clubs like Real Madrid, but most of them (except Ronaldo) seem completely against staying for one more season.
 
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Can't imagine any Madrid player would want to be used as a makeweight in a deal for Bale. Why would Morata, Modric, Di Maria, etc take a step down and a pay cut with no CL football to join us? Not gonna happen.
 
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DHSF said:
Bale will fail (I think). I give it two years. It will be a make or break seaosn or two for him. Especially if they get rid of Ronaldo to whoever Manure or Monaco etc.

At Spurs he will have had the fans behind him, the players supporting him, eyes would still be on him, he would have been hailed. At RM if he succeeds he will be one of the top three players in the world. If he fails he will be the choker.
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‘It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low"

This gets banded about when talking about Spurs' ambition. You can't really blame Bale for wanting to give it a go at Madrid. I want him to stop but if his head isn't here then good luck to him.
 
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DaveYid said:
Can't imagine any Madrid player would want to be used as a makeweight in a deal for Bale. Why would Morata, Modric, Di Maria, etc take a step down and a pay cut with no CL football to join us? Not gonna happen.
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Morata would not be on all that much, being a cantera lad (Real usually underpay their home-grown youngsters). We could offer him 80-100k a week, which I am fairly confident would represent an increase on the salary he earns at RM. Still, do not think he will want to come, and equally do not put much faith in the Guardian when it comes to Bale: after all, this is the same newspaper that exclusively predicted that Inter would 100 percent sign him for 40 million pounds after he demolished them in the CL, possibly in the 2011 winter transfer window.
 
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DaveYid said:
Can't imagine any Madrid player would want to be used as a makeweight in a deal for Bale. Why would Morata, Modric, Di Maria, etc take a step down and a pay cut with no CL football to join us? Not gonna happen.
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They'd stay a season and fudge off the second one of the top clubs come in for them and we'd be back to square one again.
 
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Dayo said:
‘It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low"

This gets banded about when talking about Spurs' ambition. You can't really blame Bale for wanting to give it a go at Madrid. I want him to stop but if his head isn't here then good luck to him.
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I want him to go, now. Dont really want him to stay. Dont think there is any going back now. Its like begging and pleading with a gf not to break up with you. Just now get as much as you can for Bale but hopefully work has been done already in getting one or two players. Oh but id also like us to fudge RM over cos theyre utter ****s.

ps - you are right - better to fail aiming high but football clus will be here for a great deal longer than players, they have one career and it can fall flat instantly.
 
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If Bale does leave, I hope he's a spectacular failure the likes of which haven't been seen before.
 
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What I love about us asking for Morata is that it would mean that Real have to give up something they care about. Money is no problem for them and neither is giving up players like Di Maria or Coentrao, but to lose Morata would really sting for them. Not sure they would be willing to part with him at all, and of course he might very likely not be willing to leave either.
 
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africanspurs said:
people on far higher pay grades fell foul to the obvious that has been happening in business, sports and life since the BIG ASS cave man used to club the little guy over the head and take his woman?I dont know how these people get ahead in life if they can get taken for mugs like that.

and honestly? yes i always knew that if the price was right this summer that we would be open for considering bale's sale...you know why? cause levy didnt and hasnt categorically said "NO we WILL NOT sell bale or anyone!!". he has said "we are not LOOKING to sell our best players this summer" that leaves you wiggle room. Ask those big wigs on large pay cheques which one sounds like a final definitive statement of intention

and seriously....if all it takes to be an advisor is to know something so obvious like footballers dont have fan level loyalty and may look to enhance their careers when they get the chance...then there is a whole queue of Nigerians who have seen the serious hustle of real life that are missing out on a lucrative occupation. Sign me up!

a free piece of advise i will give those execs , footballers ......wait for it........LIE!!!! and they do it alot
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Some people still believe in honour and someone's word. Especially when relationships have been built over years. Let me tell you African, this makes me a
'mug' too, and good. I don't give a flying fudge. I will continue to believe when I feel belief is worth it, in people, in whatever. I will not ever believe that every single person I encounter is going to fudge me at some point in my life. Honestly? if I take that approach in my life, what's the point in living? Just to make sure I don't get fudged over? Not for me thanks, and I can tell you, the nature of my work and lifestyle is such that you could take that route if you wanted to...I won't.

As for the price, well even though you feel you've got it covered my friend, the TRUTH is that Madrid are absolutely NOT going to pony up 100 million, or even 85...I'd be AMAZED if they cobbled together 60-65 million. They are looking to get him far cheaper than the sticker price.

Thirdly...I know you and KD don't want to believe it ('grown men they are' and all that) but theses kids have had agents since they were young. How big a role in the Bale family life would you assume Barnet has played? In the last 9 years?

Your last comment about 'a queue of Nigerians seeing the serious hustle of real life' is interesting...I have no doubt you're right in some cases. But you are guilty of applying your experiences (observed or self-realized) through other walks of life. Not everything is a 'serious hustle of real life', some things are still about honorable, decent people.

The only mistake I, and several others it would appear, made, was in believing what they were told. I include the likes of BT execs and NBC in that. And if you still think they're all naive not to see ALL football as one big 'hustle' where no-one's word is worth a brick, then should you visit N17 tomorrow and show all these 'macarons' what they were too blind to see. If you get pas the gates and manage to be shown to an office where Levy takes your phone call, let us know what he says.
 
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I still don't fully believe that Bale has made it plain to anyone at the club that he wants to go. As much as I believe in No smoke without Fire, I also see the incredibly weak and baseless journalism that is trawled out on the internet and in the papers where no basis for a story is actually investigated. Its a brainstorming session at every paper, I'm sure of it. They sit round a table and say who shall we link with who this week and hang on to vague links and rumours of interest that are years old in order to validate stories.

I think that if Bale is told he is going nowhere this summer then he will play football, get his head down and get on with it. Any deviation from his normal personality will be down to RM, his agent and other hangers on. However, If we feel that he is suitably disrupted enough to warrant getting rid of then set a high price and stick to it. No one forced him to sign a contract till 2016 and until they meet a price that suits us, much in the way we have been made to in relation to Soldado, then Bale has to understand that he is going nowhere.

It's catch 22 really in relation to the money. If we sold Bale for the reported (or indeed higher) price then it is difficult to see how we spend that without being forced to overpay on targets. Part of me feels that if Bale goes we should just weigh a big sum in on Suarez and try to get a couple of other cheaper targets that we are allegedly linked with to strengthen the squad. Another part of me feels we should bank the money and bide our time rather than rush through targets in order to use the money. The one thing about Suarez is that if we signed him then it potentially would be as seamless as possible in terms of getting the team through the change of not having Bale in many aspects. I have to say that if we signed, for example, Suarez, Alderweireld and Ljajic/Pjanic with the money from Bale then I would in many aspects not be over concerned at losing Bale but it would still rankle with me as well.

Just a really difficult issue and one I hope we get sorted sooner rather than later.
 
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Rossi22 said:
Offer Morata £80k-£100k? Are you high? :lol:
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I'm don't think he's saying that we should offer him that much, just that this seems to be our cap unless we're talking about Gareth Bale so if Morata moves to us he wouldn't have to take a wage cut as he's likely to be on considerably less at Real Madrid.
 
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I actually think the 'who would join us even if we got the Bale money' argument is a little flawed.

Reason being, if we had a warchest, brought in the first big game, or even pointed to the likes of Paulinho and Soldado, then combining that with Baldini being onboard and the highly rated AVB, there's a vet easy pitch there to say that the club is going places, and that we could be worth joining. We could easily sell the 'project' that footballers love to talk about.

We'd have spending power that no other club would have so I don't think players would look at us and think we were just a 5th placed team. They'd see the quality squad, the quality coaches, the quality decision makers that means there's a good chance we could be challenging for silverware.

That said, I still don't want to sell Bale. I still don't understand why it's suddenly had to be 'this summer or never!!!!!' and I'm hopeful he'll stay. If the rumours of Bale suggesting he wants to leave are true in a 'no smoke without fire' sense, then perhaps the rumours that Real don't have the cash to pay us on our terms is too.

And with 3 years left on his contract, I can't see Levy accepting any deal that isn't on his terms. And if he doesn't, he has a very justifiable argument to make to Bale and his family as to why he didn't let Real get their way, which would hopefully allow Bale to knuckle down and try and earn the move next summer.
 
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Jason Burt ‏@JBurtTelegraph 4m
I'm sorry to say for #THFC fans but I think Gareth Bale is now likely to join Real Madrid. Not what I was told previously but things change.

From the journo closest to AVB.
 
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braineclipse said:
I'm don't think he's saying that we should offer him that much, just that this seems to be our cap unless we're talking about Gareth Bale so if Morata moves to us he wouldn't have to take a wage cut as he's likely to be on considerably less at Real Madrid.
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Who si this Morata chap? A striker but any good? I mean Portillo or whatever was good as well - remember him?
 
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BrainOfLevy said:
I actually think the 'who would join us even if we got the Bale money' argument is a little flawed.

Reason being, if we had a warchest, brought in the first big game, or even pointed to the likes of Paulinho and Soldado, then combining that with Baldini being onboard and the highly rated AVB, there's a vet easy pitch there to say that the club is going places, and that we could be worth joining. We could easily sell the 'project' that footballers love to talk about.

We'd have spending power that no other club would have so I don't think players would look at us and think we were just a 5th placed team. They'd see the quality squad, the quality coaches, the quality decision makers that means there's a good chance we could be challenging for silverware.

That said, I still don't want to sell Bale. I still don't understand why it's suddenly had to be 'this summer or never!!!!!' and I'm hopeful he'll stay. If the rumours of Bale suggesting he wants to leave are true in a 'no smoke without fire' sense, then perhaps the rumours that Real don't have the cash to pay us on our terms is too.

And with 3 years left on his contract, I can't see Levy accepting any deal that isn't on his terms. And if he doesn't, he has a very justifiable argument to make to Bale and his family as to why he didn't let Real get their way, which would hopefully allow Bale to knuckle down and try and earn the move next summer.
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I agree with your main point, although "spending power that no other club would have" isn't really true.

We lost Modric last season and back then Bale was only emerging as a superstar, nowhere near the status he has now. Yet we were able to attract Lloris, Vertonghen and Dembele. Players that did really well for us and could easily have played for bigger clubs imo. As long as the job is being done behind the scenes with identifying the right targets then there are deals there to be made. In the past we've been able to attract players like Berbatov, Modric, VdV and of course Bale himself without having a world class superstar to attract them. We won't be able to find a direct replacement and we won't be in a position to compete with the biggest clubs for players, but if Baldini, AVB, Levy and Pleat can't do great things for this club with £80-100m to spend then we're truly fudged regardless of what happens to Bale.
 
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