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Gareth Bale

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Kingdawson said:
You're seeing it from a very simplistic viewpoint imo (btw this is the 3rd time you've described something i've said as silly..i show you enough respect not to do that so please do the same).

A lot of our players can double up and can play in various positions. We don't need another lb if Rose is here as Vertonghen is good in that role, Naughton can play that role, and we don't know Fryers development stage. United don't really have a cover RB but they have Jones who can player there, Smalling who can play there.

You don't have to replace players like for like. If we stick with this 4-4-1-1 tactic and get rid of the players i listed and brought in 2 strikers and a creative left sided player that is able to play centrally we will be fine.
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That's exactly why we do need another LB though. Rose is a young player, he's not going to have the consistency that we desire over the course of the season. If he's in bad form, we have to weaken ourselves further and play our best centre back out of position and mess with the CB pairing. If we want to compete at a high level we need two left backs. What happens if Rose ruptures a cruciate? Do we spend the entire season with Vertonghen out wide? Meaning we don't have that great a LB and that our CB's are worse than they could be?

Players can play elsewhere, but they are nowhere near as effective outside their primary role. It's a last resort, not a first replacement.


I am seeing it from the viewpoint that i like the fact we have a squad. Which is a strength and should be utilsed more to avoid running out of steam late on in the season.
 
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Spursalot said:
That's exactly why we do need another LB though. Rose is a young player, he's not going to have the consistency that we desire over the course of the season. If he's in bad form, we have to weaken himself further and play our best centre back out of position and mess with the CB pairing. If we want to compete at a high level we need two left backs. What happens if Rose ruptures a cruciate? Do we spend the entire season with Vertonghen out wide? Meaning we don't have that great a LB and that our CB's are worse than they could be?

Players can play elsewhere, but they are nowhere near as effective outside their primary role. It's a last resort, not a first replacement.


I am seeing it from the viewpoint that i like the fact we have a squad. Which is a strength and should be utilsed more to avoid running out of steam late on in the season.
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I don't agree.

I feel when we actually target a couple of signings that will go into the first X1 rather than messing about again and signing 7 good utility players it usually works. In 09/10 we sold loads and pinpointed 2 signings that go straight into the first team...Bassong and Crouch..it worked. 11/12 we brought in 3 players for the first X1, Parker, Ade, and Brad...it worked.

This time i want us to focus on 2 big signings that go into the first X1.
 
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Thought this thread was supposed to be about Bale!

Anyway, Tim Sherwood talking to Alan Brazil on Talkbrick this morning sounded super confident that Bale would not be going anywhere this summer. Didn't catch it all but he confirmed everything we keep hearing about how Bale loves Spurs, gets on brilliantly with everyone at the club and is a top bloke all round etc. Also something along the lines how the club are determined to keep him and build on their progress with him in the side. Usual stuff you might say but it carried conviction.

Sherwood himself sounded very happy in his current role in the club so much so he would only consider leaving if an irresistible offer in management came along. He bigged-up Ferdinand's role too, saying how much he helps the lads and how valuable he is in passing on the benefit of his experience as a top striker, stuff like that. Again, maybe the kind of ambassadorial stuff you'd expect, Mabbutt-like, but again it carried real conviction.

Suppose I'm going off topic too now, just great to hear someone inside the club sounding so very positive about Bale's commitment to the club and the general direction the club is going in.
 
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Kingdawson said:
I don't agree.

I feel when we actually target a couple of signings that will go into the first X1 rather than messing about again and signing 7 good utility players it usually works. In 09/10 we sold loads and pinpointed 2 signings that go straight into the first team...Bassong and Crouch..it worked. 11/12 we brought in 3 players for the first X1, Parker, Ade, and Brad...it worked.

This time i want us to focus on 2 big signings that go into the first X1.
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As do i, just not at the expense of the squad depth. I've not said i don't want to sign quality players. With three i think we'd easily qualify for the CL next season.


Striker, Creative CM and Left forward to keep the width. However if we are going to challenge for the Europa, we will need to have a good enough squad to cope. If we don't we will be likely to fail on both fronts.
 
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Mumorn said:
I know it's very early to say anything but Fryers looks terrible. I've watched him a few times now for the U21s and he just looks poor. Out of position continuously, lapses of concentration, he was diabolical in the U21 Final last night. But he must be good if we went through a great deal to eventually sign him! AVB knows more than me
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We tried to sign Fryers before AVB joined. We've been trying to get him for about a year before Fryers joined. If anyone targeted Fryers it was Sherwood etc.
 
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Still no official news about the contract situation. But the noises coming from his camp are good, hopefully we'll get the deal done in the next few days.
 
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Kingdawson said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think we can pay these wages to a whole host of players but i sure think we have the cash to have two 100k plus earners in the squad. I certainly do not agree with the notion that we're a club that simply can't pay anywhere near these wages to players.

It's a balancing act really. Sell a few 40k plus players to bring in a 90k/100k player. Sell another two 45k plus players and bring in another 100k player. We've been selling deadwood that are comfortably on this wage for years but instead replace them with good players that are on a similar wage. How about this time when we sell/release our deadwood we save the wages on 2 big players that command big wages so we can really kick on.
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I suspect we have already seen this policy in action in January (much to the chagrin of many) and will see it executed as well as humanly possible this summer. The manager has a philosophy. And I think you'll be happy to see it in action.
 
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thfcsteff said:
...because

a) increased TV revenue
b) Under Armour's involvement
c) getting players off our wage bill
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And I think because of the fact that Bale is now very clearly among the very best players in the world, it is easier for us to offer him a high package without a stampede taking place from every other player in the squad. Before, if you offer one of our best players certain terms that smash our structure, other players could say they were only slightly less important and deserve a proportional increase at the very least.

With Bale though, someone like Dempsey for example would be pretty stupid holding the club to ransom and saying 'if they are breaking their structure for him I want a rise too!' because Bale is very clearly a level above everyone else at the club and would in fairness be doing a us a massive favour by giving us another year. A lot of our players now couldn't get higher wages elsewhere, for another reason being that we seem to be moving from a model of having a fair few players on mid-level wages to having a few select key players on high wages, with many other members of the 25 being young players that wouldn't expect it yet.
 
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Twitter / OptaJoe: 43 - @GarethBale11 managed more shots on target from outside the box than Stoke (31), Reading (35) Swansea (41) or West Ham (42). Belter. =D>
 
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Like the sound of this !!!




Tottenham's hierarchy will hold a summit meeting during their trip to the Caribbean this week to discuss plans for next season and prove the club’s ambition to Gareth Bale.

As Standard Sport revealed yesterday, Bale is set to confirm he has agreed terms on a new contract that will ensure he stays at White Hart Lane for at least one more year. However, that is only one move the club wanted to secure early in the close-season as part of their bid to launch an even stronger challenge for a top four place and silverware next term.

Tottenham’s billionaire owner Joe Lewis is planning to hold talks with chairman Daniel Levy and coach Andre Villas-Boas ahead of a friendly against the Jamaican national team on Thursday.

Lewis resides in the Bahamas and the club intend to put the disappointment of missing out on Champions League football by seriously upgrading the squad over the next few months.

Villas-Boas wants their transfer business to be completed sooner rather than later so a number of fringe players, as well as first-team regulars Emmanuel Adebayor and Benoit Assou-Ekotto, are set to be moved on to make way for new arrivals.

Some of the targets are the same as 12 months ago, with Villas-Boas still aiming high at luring Hulk and Joao Moutinho, players he coached while in charge of Porto, to north London.

Brazilian striker Leandro Damiao remains on the agenda but they face strong competition from Champions League finalists Borussia Dortmund for Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke.

Lewis has already backed the decision not to cash in on Bale this summer and is expected to the Wales international at some point.

Meanwhile, Tottenham’s head of football development, Tim Sherwood, told talkSPORT today that Bale will be staying at the club.

“I’d say one million per cent he stays at Tottenham,” Sherwood said. “He’s fantastically happy. I see him around the training ground and he has a good working relationship with the manager.

“He loves his team-mates and they show him the respect he deserves and he gives it to them back. I don’t see him banging the door down looking for a move.”
 
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It doesn't.

I don't expect Lewis to open his wallet and we do need to be cautious as another £17m thread will tell you but we NEED to do whatever it takes to keep Bale and I think the best way to do that is splash the cash on other top quality players, attract the the best we can. My expectations for next season is to finish top four and win a trophy (really need to win some and on the regs if we're to be anything IMHO) but all I can say from what I saw in the press conference before Sunday's match was a man on a mission to win the league and if I was a wealthy owner the money would there if he ever needed it simply because my head, heart and gut feeling tells me this guy can take us places we've never been before.
 
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It almost sounds as though we all want Joe Lewis to spend some money, but doesn't that go against what most fans said previously?

'If we get bought out by some rich arab, russian owner, that would be it for me'.

Is this any different?
 
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diego_maradona said:
It almost sounds as though we all want Joe Lewis to spend some money, but doesn't that go against what most fans said previously?

'If we get bought out by some rich arab, russian owner, that would be it for me'.

Is this any different?
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If he's a true yid then I would say that it is but because he's a bit like Howard Hughes I haven't got a clue if he does let alone who is.
 
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billyiddo said:
where does it suggest Joe Lewis will be putting his hand in his pocket?
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"Lewis resides in the Bahamas and the club intend to put the disappointment of missing out on Champions League football by seriously upgrading the squad over the next few months."

Or are we going to upgrade by breaking even again?
 
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Rossi22 said:
"Lewis resides in the Bahamas and the club intend to put the disappointment of missing out on Champions League football by seriously upgrading the squad over the next few months."

Or are we going to upgrade by breaking even again?
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no we can do it how we done previously by spreading the cost over several seasons. tv revenue is going to increase significantly from this summer onward and we can also potentially bring in 10-20 mil in player sales meaning we can most likely make a bit of a splash without abandoning our ethos of spending within our means
 
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Then what is the point of this?

"Tottenham’s billionaire owner Joe Lewis is planning to hold talks with chairman Daniel Levy and coach Andre Villas-Boas ahead of a friendly against the Jamaican national team on Thursday."
 
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