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I give him credit for that.

But the management shouldn’t allow them to race, they should either have told Norris to hold position or Piastri to let him pass on a straight.
Why would they tell Piastri, the overall points leader, to let Norris pass him? THAT would be amateur hour! That's a decision Ferrari would be capable of doing, as they seem totally incompetent.

If I were the boss at Ferrari, I'd replace everyone in the F1 management with the Endurance team. They seem to know how to operate a racing team.
 
Why would they tell Piastri, the overall points leader, to let Norris pass him? THAT would be amateur hour! That's a decision Ferrari would be capable of doing, as they seem totally incompetent.

If I were the boss at Ferrari, I'd replace everyone in the F1 management with the Endurance team. They seem to know how to operate a racing team.

Because he was faster, and the priority is constructors points.
 
Because he was faster, and the priority is constructors points.
If he's faster, he's got to get past Piastri, without trying to squeeze through a gap which isn't there. It's racing, not charity. Norris was an idiot. That's it. It was his fault, and his fault alone, and he even admitted it. I know he's English, and you're trying to defend him, but in this case it simply isn't any defence to be made.
 
If he's faster, he's got to get past Piastri, without trying to squeeze through a gap which isn't there. It's racing, not charity. Norris was an idiot. That's it. It was his fault, and his fault alone, and he even admitted it. I know he's English, and you're trying to defend him, but in this case it simply isn't any defence to be made.

It’s not about defending Norris. I agree it was mostly his fault.

But it comes from bad management on the pit wall. Team mates don’t race.

It’s got nothing to do with nationality.
 
Last season, with team orders McLaren might have taken the drivers championship from Verstapen. So team orders are meaningful.

This season they’ve been so far ahead (until now) that it hasn’t mattered.
 
It’s not about defending Norris. I agree it was mostly his fault.

But it comes from bad management on the pit wall. Team mates don’t race.

It’s got nothing to do with nationality.
Yes they do.
Norris was faster - great! It's F1, not a drag race, he needs to use that speed to pass his opponent, irrespective of who they are.

Re; team points - a 4th & 5th has the same number of points irrespective of the order.
They ended up with just 4th. If you are taking team orders, it's order number 1 - don't fudging crash into eachother.
 
Yes they do.
Norris was faster - great! It's F1, not a drag race, he needs to use that speed to pass his opponent, irrespective of who they are.

Re; team points - a 4th & 5th has the same number of points irrespective of the order.
They ended up with just 4th. If you are taking team orders, it's order number 1 - don't fudging crash into eachother.

That’s what I’m talking about, you don’t allow a collision because you don’t allow free racing between the two.
 
That’s what I’m talking about, you don’t allow a collision because you don’t allow free racing between the two.
Then that's not racing - that's time trials.

You have to be able to let them race.
Within that dynamic becomes the risk balance - two team mates should be instructed by the team to be more considered in their racing style because of the greater impact of a crash.
The individual drivers have to balance that with their own ambitions.
F1 operates as a team and individual sport simultaneously.

Norris was right to try to gain a place. Piastri was right to keep the place he'd earned.
Norris was stupid because he took a risk that destroyed his race, and could also have destroyed Piastri's too - ironically, taking Piastri out too would have been a better outcome for his individual competition, but terrible for the team.
The sensible choice would have been to wait for a clear opportunity to overtake, keeping himself in the race, in the championship hunt and also not damaging his position within the team.

McClaren will favour Piastri now with upgrades and tactics to ensure he gets that title and probably hold Lando off in 50/50 calls to ensure he doesn't put himself or Piastri out of the race.
I've always questioned Landos mentality - this will be an interesting test. If it's Senna, Schumacher, Verstapen in this position they would now push it even harder and more aggressively - Lando isn't that kind of racer, but if he tries it (and he has to if he wants to fight for the title) he'll probably end up in the wall a lot
 
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