Kaboul is finished as a player capable of playing for a team which aspires to the upper reaches of the league. Post his injuries he no longer has the spring to dominate in teh air and is slow/labourious on the turn
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Federico Fazio
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Kaboul is finished as a player capable of playing for a team which aspires to the upper reaches of the league. Post his injuries he no longer has the spring to dominate in teh air and is slow/labourious on the turn
SoundAndVision
Michael Brown
Not really fare to judge him yet, looks like hes playing with 0 confidence.Cant really blame him with the way the whole team is playing, plus having to play alongside Kaboul, plus all the negative vibes echoing around WHL at the moment.Must wonder what the **** hit him.
He was a vital part of Sevilla's Europa league winning side, he cant be THAT bad.Would like to see him given a run with Vertonghen, guess that wont be happening though.
He was a vital part of Sevilla's Europa league winning side, he cant be THAT bad.Would like to see him given a run with Vertonghen, guess that wont be happening though.
I agree he does. so why buy fazio? Fazio has looked poor everytime he has been played (even against Brighton). Pace is a much needed commodity so why have we signed another centre half who needs another type of players to play alongside. I am sure we could have done better- Winston Reid springs to mind as does Lescott
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
Just out of interest, how many times have you seen Dier play CB?
Fazio has been incredibly underwhelming so far.
However, it enough for him to be adjusting to a new league and a new team, he's also playing a system that leaves our centre backs incredibly (and unfairly) exposed. Almost impossible in my view for him to really impress considering those circumstances
However, it enough for him to be adjusting to a new league and a new team, he's also playing a system that leaves our centre backs incredibly (and unfairly) exposed. Almost impossible in my view for him to really impress considering those circumstances
Jimmy Kong
Steven Pienaar
James Collins is underestimated by a lot of people I think.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I don't think so: I think Dier was tagged to be Verts' eventual replacement, and I still have a lot of hope for Veljkovic (who I believe is also rated highly be the club's staff: or rather, was rated highly when Sherwood ran things, with the information flow ceasing after he moved up). I think Fazio was bought as a bargain basement panic purchase when every other CB we were chasing proved to be a bit too expensive for Levy's tastes (save for Moreno, who unluckily for us just got injured at the worst possible time).
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
I've not seen his stats but I do wonder whether the call for Dier to play CB is from people's experience of watching him play there or just a want for something else. I'm not against the idea of playing him at CB possibly because we've seen everyone else do poorly in the center.
Unfortunately I don't see Kaboul being dropped despite how awful he has been
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
The way I see it, Dier is a) pacy enough to be an alternative to the slow Fazio, b) more reliable than Chiriches, and c) not going to be any worse than Kaboul has been, with the added benefit of being able to learn from any mistakes he may make due to his youth.
Ergo the calls for him to start. I certainly haven't seen him play at CB, save for the first half against Spam.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
The way I see it, Dier is a) pacy enough to be an alternative to the slow Fazio, b) more reliable than Chiriches, and c) not going to be any worse than Kaboul has been, with the added benefit of being able to learn from any mistakes he may make due to his youth.
Ergo the calls for him to start. I certainly haven't seen him play at CB, save for the first half against Spam.
Dier has been making mistakes frequently enough at right back for him to be dropped/rotated with Naughton. Solid PL player, but far from everyone's favourite player...
I see no reason to think he's ready to be a reliable, consistent performer at centre back at this point.
Fazio has gotten two PL starts since signing, after getting very little pre-season time with the team because of signing late. I think he should be given more time on the pitch. He was a fixture in the EL winning side last season and somewhere near the top of their list of leaders/captains.
I think its a bit of both. I also dont see him ousting Walker or Yedlin from teh RB position given that both are more natural full backs and with the narrow-ness in attacking areas of Poch's 4-2-3-1 system, having attacking full backs is essential.
So that means, post Walker's recovery and Yedlin's arrival (which looks like being in Jan if the rumours of him getting a European passport arae right) that if Dier doesnt play CB then he's rarely going to get any game time. So therefore he should be considered alongside Verts, Fazio, Kabou and Chiriches for the CB spots - I'd like to see us sell Chiriches, put Kaboul in the knackers yard and sign another CB so we end up with Verts, [new guy], Fazio and Dier as our 4 CBs. Maybe Moreno or Schar could fill the gap?