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Eric Dier

afsoc4life said:
For a big fellow, he is also surprisingly physically weak during defensive set pieces. My mind wondered if Dier knows how to jump?

I was checking PES stats. His defensive awareness now is worse than his first season at Spurs.

On football manager 2021, his jumping is 13 out of 20.
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About the same jumping ability as Sissoko’s
 
AdamB said:
Criticism for the Fulham one is fine (though Sanchez should ahve stopped the cross anyway)

Criticism for the Sheff U one isn't. Davies has McGoldrick. Dier's job as the spare CB is to be in front of Davies to try to block crosses. By being in that position, 90% of crosses which would have come in from there would either have been blocked by Dier or gone over Davies/McGoldrick.

Dier and Rodon as two of our CBs are fine, however we need to sign 2 more CBs over the next 6-18 months to replace Sanchez and Toby. Tanganga is a 5th but used across the back-line
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I think some decided before the season started that Dier was our best CB based on a small handful of games from last season and don’t dare criticise him when he makes a mistake. Don’t get me wrong, he’s done better at CB This season then I expected him to and of our all CB’s he’s the one with the most upside, if Toby was younger then clearly he would still be our best CB. That said I think ALL of our CB’s are upgradable, Dier included. He’s the one we should look to upgrade last but is going to be good enough for us to challenge for titles and hopefully the CL again one day? That remains to be seen. From what I’ve seen so far I’d say no personally. He can be brilliant for 85 mins but then make a mistake which is what separates the good CB’s from the elite ones.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But still it’s a computer game
And the people watching aren’t experts
They recruit a variety of people to give them opinions but if i don’t believe many if any are experts
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I think you are not giving them especially the Football Manager statistics contributors enough respect. It may be a simulation game but the data gathered by them is not only used by gamers but also by non-gamers.

Looking at the pattern across both games, Dier's positives and negatives in my opinion are well stated.
 
90291Spur said:
What are his stats like on fifa 21?
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Funny enough I don't know much about FIFA 21 and how they gather data. His starting season ratings are below. His jumping is 71 out of 99. Balance is 40 put of 99 and strength is 90 out of 99.

Interestingly it looks like his jumping is not well regarded. Perhaps all platforms use height plus the jumping stats to judge if the player will win the ball in the air. But then on FIFA 21 Virgil van Dijk has 90 jumping with comparative height so that theory may be wrong.
 
I don’t get it, if the ball is landing directly on his head he is one of the best headers of the ball in the prem but if he has to move slightly or jump for it he is one of the worst.
 
I'd disagree... The cross wasnt fast and Dier had time to realise that it wasn't a threat at the near Post. So either he took too long to decide or wS just too immobile to respond. I'm guessing its both but more of the latter.

The best CBs have that forceful acceleration in the first one or two steps to propel them to win crosses and blocks. Dier doesn't have that and will never be a great CB imo.

Force = mass x acceleration, so without the acceleration we can understand why Dier do not look like confidently winning physically challenging headers
AdamB said:
Criticism for the Fulham one is fine (though Sanchez should ahve stopped the cross anyway)

Criticism for the Sheff U one isn't. Davies has McGoldrick. Dier's job as the spare CB is to be in front of Davies to try to block crosses. By being in that position, 90% of crosses which would have come in from there would either have been blocked by Dier or gone over Davies/McGoldrick.

Dier and Rodon as two of our CBs are fine, however we need to sign 2 more CBs over the next 6-18 months to replace Sanchez and Toby. Tanganga is a 5th but used across the back-line
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27 years old and should be in the prime of his career but still error prone (gifted Dippers their winner at Clanfield and now partly culpable for 2 more goals today) and not even homegrown; hopefully can be upgraded this summer.
 
SteveAWOL said:
27 years old and should be in the prime of his career but still error prone (gifted Dippers their winner at Clanfield and now partly culpable for 2 more goals today) and not even homegrown; hopefully can be upgraded this summer.
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Little chance of that whilst Jose is here. He loves Dier.
 
Apart from that one absolute brain fart of a penalty, Dier did alright.

The problem is, I'm thinking that too often. I like the guy, and I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people make out, but if you're going to play CB you've got to cut out those mistakes. Especially when playing this demented low-percentage Mourinhoball.

Rodon's not the messiah just yet, as his performance against Liverpool showed, but I think we may as well stick him alongside Toby (who I thought did well tonight) and see how they bed in together.
 
He's awfully mediocre, that's it. In the pantheon of Spurs defenders in the Premier League era, He'd probably rank below Daws, and *far* below our best like Ledley, Toby and Jan.

He's just not good at anything, and not woeful at anything. Has no brain, has some heart...makes up for his lack of nous and skill with semi-decent anticipation and lots of pointing.

Titus Bramble MkII.
 
FatBloke said:
Apart from that one absolute brain fart of a pelanty, Dier did alright.

The problem is, I'm thinking that too often. I like the guy, and I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people make out, but if you're going to play CB you've got to cut out those mistakes. Especially when playing this demented low-percentage Mourinhoball.

Rodon's not the messiah just yet, as his performance against Liverpool showed, but I think we may as well stick him alongside Toby (who I thought did well tonight) and see how they bed in together.
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He's not Bramble awful but he doesn't give you confidence at the back, the problem for me is that he's always just out of position - so many goals or chances you see him in the replays standing in no mans land and it can't just be co-incidence.

He's never going to be good enough at CB for a top 4 side let along one who wants to chase titles.
 
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