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Bishop said:
It's entirely possible that the Girona year was a one off pinnacle season of his career and he's been some what found out since, but honestly if we had signed him instead of City I would have been very positive of the move at the time.

Muck feels strong to me but you might well be right, I think only time will tell. It does feel like he would need to be even cheaper than that now because he needs to rebuild but he would not be the first talented player to fall away at an elite club to later on show their real strengths once they've moved on.

He isn't my primary pick for the left hand role admittedly, it would be a big risk to buy him at this point. We need someone ready to come in and perform right now, to be at a high level relative to their talent immediately. So i agree with you about signing him.
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I think he is a good player and potentially great
The fee in the summer was that of a level of a player who would IMO have had to have delivered more
Semenyo who has delivered more would be leaving for less than that fee quoted in the summer for example
 
Bedfordspurs said:
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Worryingly this guy nailed it
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We haven't won games of football at home since we have moved in, this isn't new.

And the idea they board wouldn't back the manager for investment when its exactly what we need, Frank or otherwise is the real issue. If we sack Frank and end up having a frugal window on this idea that this squads better than it is, then we are going to be setting the next manager up for the same.

Thats the real issue at play IMO
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I think he needs to win the next 2 games
Or we will be below Leeds
Can’t think beyond them IMO
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Again, I think if we get 3-6 points, we’ll have done alright. Can’t see us beating Palace and Brentford away. However, any less than 3 points, especially if there is a defeat within that, and he’s on very, very thin ice.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Again, I think if we get 3-6 points, we’ll have done alright. Can’t see us beating Palace and Brentford away. However, any less than 3 points, especially if there is a defeat within that, and he’s on very, very thin ice.
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If we go into the new year 17th… well, it will be interesting what he says, I’ll leave it there
 
Bedfordspurs said:
If we go into the new year 17th… well, it will be interesting what he says, I’ll leave it there
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If we go into the new year 17th, his position will be very close to untenable. Our February (City H, United A, Saudi Sportswashing Machine H, Woolwich H) is stinking.

I have massive, massive doubts about him but I've always said that Frank deserves a year unless he drags us into a relegation fight. 17th would be unacceptable and reason for sacking IMO.
 
DeanoAustin said:
If we go into the new year 17th, his position will be very close to untenable. Our February (City H, United A, Saudi Sportswashing Machine H, Woolwich H) is stinking.

I have massive, massive doubts about him but I've always said that Frank deserves a year unless he drags us into a relegation fight. 17th would be unacceptable and reason for sacking IMO.
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Our form became a relegation fight after October IMO
 
DeanoAustin said:
It’s relegation form but we aren’t yet in a relegation fight. Towards the end of 18/19, Poch had us in relegation form but we finished top 4. A bad spell between two arbitrary points isn’t reason for sacking. Being 17th is.
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Yeah I agree
How low were we under Poch that season? I don’t remember us being bottom half but that seems an age ago
 
DeanoAustin said:
Poch never had us near bottom half. We were on the periphery of a title fight before the roof fell in.
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I checked and we were 11th I think
However
And this is not a reflection on Frank
Poch did inherit some top top drawer players and also had the young player buy in. I know from the info I was told at the time about the changing room dynamic and it was divided but Poch and his players won
I don’t know who are Frank players to see that happening now TBF but then you only know about these after the event
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But another potential guy
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Well, let's be real I don't see us not buying a potential guy.

I would personally seriously look at Nusa who are this point I think is more than just potential. He's putting in the performances right now but are we attractive to him and are we willing to pay the fee needed?
 
Bishop said:
Well, let's be real I don't see us not buying a potential guy.

I would personally seriously look at Nusa who are this point I think is more than just potential. He's putting in the performances right now but are we attractive to him and are we willing to pay the fee needed?
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Is he really …
I just checked and it’s 1 goal, 2 assists in the league assuming Google is right
 
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