ENIC

[DeanoAustin]

We're crap in the league, but going far in the cups. Isn't that the Spurs we were before ENIC, the one they want to go back to?

We're even crapper in the league than we usually were and we haven't won a cup which we used to do every now and again.

But you're pretty much spot on. With some of our fan base, you'd swear we were up to our bollox in Champions Leagues and league titles before ENIC and Sugar.

 

[Lilbaz]

You're right we did need HG, just a shame we couldn't identify better in the case of Johnson (and there are numerous) or negotiate better with Solanke, but as I say Solanke is a little overpriced but theres still a chance with a different coach and better playing system that he can be succesful.

I didn't really want any of them. But it is what it is.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

We're even crapper in the league than we usually were and we haven't won a cup which we used to do every now and again.

But you're pretty much spot on. With some of our fan base, you'd swear we were up to our bollox in Champions Leagues and league titles before ENIC and Sugar.

When I started supporting Spurs 7 teams won the championship in the first 8 years only Wolves retained it in that period. Same with the FA Cup, I suppose that's why I got use to not winning something every year, something that's expected by a lot of fans now.

 

[glorygloryeze]

When I started supporting Spurs 7 teams won the championship in the first 8 years only Wolves retained it in that period. Same with the FA Cup, I suppose that's why I got use to not winning something every year, something that's expected by a lot of fans now.

That seems another strawman accusation; has @Yiddo hacked your account?

Let's be clear: the accusation by many fans is NOT that they expect Tottenham to win something every year, it's that they want the owners to do all they can to enable us to be able to win trophies every once in a while. Nearly 20 years without a trophy for a club of our 'size' and 'stature' given the investment into the club's infrastructure and 'value' (so much so that we are now appearing in such lists as those produced by Delloite etc) is very poor.

That poor look is not helped by the many acts taken by the owners over the years whereby it looks like trying to be the best we can be ONE THE PITCH is secondary to keeping our place in those Deloitte lists: scrabbling for signings on the last day of transfer windows to save money here and there (at the detriment of quicker squad integration/building), not biting the bullet to take the once-in-lifetime opportunity to build a great squad around a world class striker who fell in our laps, sacking the one coach who could have gone up against Pep days before a cup final etc etc

You might disagree with those who want new owners, but we should stop this nonsense that those who do want new owners are entitled to the point of expecting Spurs to "win trophies every year".
For context, whilst we have grown the infrastructure and 'value' of the club we have fort the first time since the second world war gone a whole decade period without a trophy: Spurs were the only club who won at least one major trophy in all these ten year periods:
- 50-59 (1 trophy)
- 60-69 (5 trophies)
- 70-79 (4 trophies)
- 80-89 (3 trophies)
- 90-99 (2 trophies)
- 2000-2009 (1 trophy)
- 2010-2019 and since - nada

No club has any 'right' to win trophies, but there is/was a reason we were seen as a big club....many (including me) don't believe the current owners actually know how to act like a big club and i think it is that which fuels the wish for new owners - NOT an expectation of winning a trophy every year (once a decade would probably do)

 

[Bishop]

That seems another strawman accusation; has @Yiddo hacked your account?

Let's be clear: the accusation by many fans is NOT that they expect Tottenham to win something every year, it's that they want the owners to do all they can to enable us to be able to win trophies every once in a while. Nearly 20 years without a trophy for a club of our 'size' and 'stature' given the investment into the club's infrastructure and 'value' (so much so that we are now appearing in such lists as those produced by Delloite etc) is very poor.

That poor look is not helped by the many acts taken by the owners over the years whereby it looks like trying to be the best we can be ONE THE PITCH is secondary to keeping our place in those Deloitte lists: scrabbling for signings on the last day of transfer windows to save money here and there (at the detriment of quicker squad integration/building), not biting the bullet to take the once-in-lifetime opportunity to build a great squad around a world class striker who fell in our laps, sacking the one coach who could have gone up against Pep days before a cup final etc etc

You might disagree with those who want new owners, but we should stop this nonsense that those who do want new owners are entitled to the point of expecting Spurs to "win trophies every year".
For context, whilst we have grown the infrastructure and 'value' of the club we have fort the first time since the second world war gone a whole decade period without a trophy: Spurs were the only club who won at least one major trophy in all these ten year periods:
- 50-59 (1 trophy)
- 60-69 (5 trophies)
- 70-79 (4 trophies)
- 80-89 (3 trophies)
- 90-99 (2 trophies)
- 2000-2009 (1 trophy)
- 2010-2019 and since - nada

No club has any 'right' to win trophies, but there is/was a reason we were seen as a big club....many (including me) don't believe the current owners actually know how to act like a big club and i think it is that which fuels the wish for new owners - NOT an expectation of winning a trophy every year (once a decade would probably do)

Beautiful post.

 

[billyiddo]

Unless we were bought by an oligarch instead of ENIC the chances of us doing any better over the same period on the trophy front are quite low as it's generally the richest clubs that hoover up all the trophies.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Unless we were bought by an oligarch instead of ENIC the chances of us doing any better over the same period on the trophy front are quite low as it's generally the richest clubs that hoover up all the trophies.

Countries and oligarchs