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Dominic Solanke

Are people starting to see what I've spoken about in this thread? We create no chances for him. Has he had a shot on goal in his last 2 or 3 appearances?

I'm consistently predictable but I just don't rate our wide players, they create nothing of real quality, not particularly good at link play. I just don't see these guys as being good enough to achieve what we supposedly want this season.

Maybe Odobert and Moore can be future answers but im not believing honestly.
Agreed that we've created very little for him in the last 2-3 games.

I also agree that our wide players aren't doing enough, in part because they themselves aren't getting the service they need (Palace game and second half vs Brighton in particular).

I do think we miss Odobert a bit, looked promising before his injury.

We do struggle for creativity wide with Johnson and Werner as our available wide options along with 17 year old Moore. No doubt. Both Werner and Johnson need to be set up rather specifically (each in different ways) to be effective.
 
Agreed that we've created very little for him in the last 2-3 games.

I also agree that our wide players aren't doing enough, in part because they themselves aren't getting the service they need (Palace game and second half vs Brighton in particular).

I do think we miss Odobert a bit, looked promising before his injury.

We do struggle for creativity wide with Johnson and Werner as our available wide options along with 17 year old Moore. No doubt. Both Werner and Johnson need to be set up rather specifically (each in different ways) to be effective.

Your view is totally supported by the Whoscored chalk board. Moore had 26 touches in about 68 mins of playing time. Johnson had 31 touches in the 103 minutes he was on that pitch. Werner had 18 touches from the bench, after replacing Moore. So 75 touches from 2 positions across the entire match.

It definitely implies they aren't getting service, and they are not doing enough themselves to be on the ball.

Solanke was up against 3 centre halves and still managed 43 touches. This was the sort of game I used to talk about when Kane would have about 25 touches.
 
Your view is totally supported by the Whoscored chalk board. Moore had 26 touches in about 68 mins of playing time. Johnson had 31 touches in the 103 minutes he was on that pitch. Werner had 18 touches from the bench, after replacing Moore. So 75 touches from 2 positions across the entire match.

It definitely implies they aren't getting service, and they are not doing enough themselves to be on the ball.

Solanke was up against 3 centre halves and still managed 43 touches. This was the sort of game I used to talk about when Kane would have about 25 touches.
Palace game was the kind of game that should have been perfect for Johnson had we been able to play through their press and release him. Moore too tough I'm hesitant to expect too much from him at this point, but had he been setup in "psedo counter attacking" situations after breaking their press I think he would have done really well.

West Ham was a very different game. But another one where we didn't create much for Solanke to put in. But for different reasons.
 
Your view is totally supported by the Whoscored chalk board. Moore had 26 touches in about 68 mins of playing time. Johnson had 31 touches in the 103 minutes he was on that pitch. Werner had 18 touches from the bench, after replacing Moore. So 75 touches from 2 positions across the entire match.

It definitely implies they aren't getting service, and they are not doing enough themselves to be on the ball.

Solanke was up against 3 centre halves and still managed 43 touches. This was the sort of game I used to talk about when Kane would have about 25 touches.
Those numbers are typical for Johnson, he rarely touches the ball more than 30 odd times a game (even in his recent scoring period), Son this season starting on the left has been better but still quite poor participation numbers. I think it's a bit of issue when we are largely a slower, more intricate passing side the wide players not really getting involved isn't the way for that system to work imo.
 
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