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Dodgy meat

Traces of horse DNA sounds to me like an employee having a bit of fun. Just like when bust boys use the bouillabaisse as a toilet, or jerk off in the bearnaise sauce at your local restaurant, this guy decided to chuck a pint of horse cum in a lasagne batch. Spurs are still boycoutting lasagne, right?
 
japenesegardenlover said:
We are pretty good for buying fresh food or cooking ourselves and because of me this year we are pretty much off red meat. Got to say i do not think i will be tempted ever again to get a ready meal if im runnning late, would rather go into the fish and chip shop, surely that is all just fish????
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I've heard they might be cross contaminated with sea horses.....



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Just had this email from Waitrose about this meat malarkey carry on .


The meat industry and meat products continue to be in the news and so I thought you might appreciate an update on what we have been doing. We have now done tests on 40 of our meat products. No horse meat was found in any of these tests. We did, however, discover that in just two batches of our essential Waitrose frozen British beef meatballs (480g), some of the meatballs may contain some pork. In fact, one of the tests carried out showed that the meat in the meatballs was, as it should be, 100% beef. But because another test indicated there may be some pork, I felt it important for you to be aware.

Although the meatballs are safe to eat, pork is not listed as an ingredient and should not be part of the recipe. The affected date codes are Best Before End June 2013 and Best Before End August 2013. No other date codes or products are affected.

If you have any of these products with the affected date codes in your freezer, and would like to return them to us, we will be happy to give you a refund and suitable replacement.

At Waitrose, the welfare of animals and quality of our fresh and frozen meat has always been of the highest priority. That is why we have just announced that in partnership with our dedicated beef supplier, we will create a new facility which in addition to supplying all of our fresh beef, will also now produce a range of frozen Waitrose beef products. All the beef processed at this site will continue to be sourced from our known and trusted group of British farmers.

As farmers ourselves, we strongly believe in championing British produce. We only stock fresh and frozen beef, pork and chicken from British farmers – and that includes the meat in our ready meals. The only exception is lamb, which is a seasonal meat and requires some New Zealand lamb to make up for our requirements outside the UK season. To ensure you have the very best tasting lamb all year round, we have established a small group of New Zealand farmers who work closely together to complement our English and Welsh lamb producers.

Like me, I’m sure nothing is more important to you than the safety, quality and taste of the food you give your family and that is why I wanted to write to you directly in this way.

Thank you for your time and if you do have any more questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0800 188884.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Price
Managing Director, Waitrose Ltd
 
=D> Waitrose.

I knew there was a reason I shopped there (apart from avoiding having to be near "Tesco people"). ;)
 
I fudging love Waitrose.

I'm going to say something ridiculously middle class now. I love shopping at Waitrose. As much because it is a pleasant shopping experience as it is due to the produce (which is very good).

Big respect for them.
 
scaramanga said:
As someone who is quite definitely not the 'country type', I'd always assumed that horses would be far more expensive than cows to raise.

Are there any farmers who know the answer?
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Farm cows and not horses and not a horsey type so I won't pretend to be highly knowledgeable but horse meat is a lot more expensive to buy in the meat industry if it is for the plate (prime cuts). That is the worrying thing. The horse meat being found in the ready meals, burgers etc must of been substandard to have been in any way cost effective. Old knackered horses get slaughtered and their meat in used in cat and dog food.
Probably not much difference in the taste because a supermarket burger is basically made up with lips and arse and not a decent cut of meat in sight.
 
The issues with horse meat is there are horses breed for consumption, and then there's normal horses.
There is a huge danger of eating normal horses because of veterinary medicinal products that have been injected into them entering the food chain.
So in the EU horses have passports, with a a declaration of intent for slaughter or human consumption on it.

Whats happened here is criminal groups have organised fake passports to make a profit on horses that were mean for slaughter.
The same groups are passing off horsemeat for beef all round europe.

I wouldn't trust any processed meat at the moment.
I wouldn't buy a kebab or a burger right now either.
 
Having worked on the customer service desk at Waitrose, I can tell you that they pretty much bend over backwards for you if you have any problem, as long as you look like someone who should be shopping in Waitrose (semi srs)

Someone came in with a small piece of glass that they claim to have found in a ready meal, full refund and a £20 gift voucher.

Also I don't know if any of you have a Waitrose/John Lewis partnership credit card, if you shop there you should get one. Around christmas time they close the shop early and invite a small number of people to come shop to beat the crowds. Give out champagne (probably cheap stuff) and food too.
 
japenesegardenlover said:
Makes me think gifter was right all along with some of the things he has been saying over the years. Im not to bothered at the thought of eating a horse i actually quite like how they taste but it does make you wonder what other crap is in the food they sell in the shops. I can not get over how many different factories a single ready meal will go through before it comes to this country.

Im determined to get down to 11 stone from 13 stone this summer for some cycling im doing and because of this i have stopped eating red meat. Do not think i will go back to it unless it is straight from the butcher, most of the stuff we get is from waitrose so you would hope better quality but i often when i do the shop just pop into tesco because it is easiest. Reckon i must have eaten some well dodgy stuff over the years.

Reminds me of something i heard once that most of the kebabs sold in london are actually cat meat. I do wonder if you can tell the difference between meats. Of course the are some areas in africa where they still eat humans, the worry is when we start inporting from over there. I do not mind the odd bit of horse meat but i do not want to eat a human.
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C'mon Chich.....no excuses. There are two butchers in the village, another v.good butchers at West and local three harbours beef (http://www.threeharboursbeef.co.uk/) that you can virtually see roaming around from your upstairs window. Even the co-op sell 3harbours. F*ck Tescos.
 
Modric THFC said:
The issues with horse meat is there are horses breed for consumption, and then there's normal horses.
There is a huge danger of eating normal horses because of veterinary medicinal products that have been injected into them entering the food chain.
So in the EU horses have passports, with a a declaration of intent for slaughter or human consumption on it.

Whats happened here is criminal groups have organised fake passports to make a profit on horses that were mean for slaughter.
The same groups are passing off horsemeat for beef all round europe.

I wouldn't trust any processed meat at the moment.
I wouldn't buy a kebab or a burger right now either.
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I read somewhere that the horse meat from Romania is actually criminal gangs that go out and shoot wild horses.
Therefore, i suppose the costs are not the same as actually farming them.
 
I know we talk a great deal about the likes of tescos, sainsburys etc but what about restaurants? Should they not be under the spotlight? a) im sure some of the suppliers may be the same suppliers as Tescos etc will have used and b) some of the meat recently hasnt really looked like meat and actually tastes like microwaved lasagne from Tesco etc.
 
I wonder how long its been going on. If you really think Waitrose are any different then think again. Same brick different packaging, surroundings etc you are just paying more for your fake meat with a smile.
 
You meat-eaters shouldn't be worried about what sort of flesh is in your food, you should be fudging scared about the stuff in there that isn't meat ;)
 
AuroRaman said:
You meat-eaters shouldn't be worried about what sort of flesh is in your food, you should be fudging scared about the stuff in there that isn't meat ;)
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Given the fraud and mislabelling that's going on out there nobody is safe, how long before they find meat or GM products in Quorn?
 
Gordinho said:
Given the fraud and mislabelling that's going on out there nobody is safe, how long before they find meat or GM products in Quorn?
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Mate, Quorn and soy products such as Tofu are just as bad in the long-term, totally agree with you. Quorn is just completely processed, and tofu has been proven to be bad for your health unless in some of it's purest form.

As an ex meat eater, I must admit I still turn to some of these fake meat products in some meals. However, I will always buy organic vegetables to make up my food as much as possible. It is a bit more expensive but totally worth it.
 
UK supermarket chain Waitrose has withdrawn its popular ‘essential’ range after discovering that the cut-price products had led to a number of poor people shopping there.

The discount brand, launched in 2009 to help Waitrose’s core customer base cope with the recession without having to downgrade one of their Range Rovers, was proving extremely successful. This success appears to have come at a price though, with the unwanted side effect of attracting the working class.

‘At first it worked fine, our regular shoppers were delighted with the new range, and common people were still put off by the Waitrose branding’ explained marketing director Rupert Thomas, ‘but as we advertised more, and made the mistake of including the prices of products in our TV commercials, we began to see some undesirable characters appearing in our aisles, enticed in by the prospect of finding a tin of beans for under £5, which they previously hadn’t expected from us. One horrid man even came in wearing a Hi-Vis vest looking for a sandwich. It was awful.’

The popularity of the ‘essential’ range had seen it quickly expand to include affordable versions of many foodstuffs and household items. To make matters worse Waitrose also starting pointing out that many of their prices were the same as those found in Tescos, attracting even more lower class shoppers and alienating many of their existing clientele. ‘It was so demeaning finding out that I wasn’t paying any more for my groceries than a common chav’ moaned former Waitrose customer Emily Hamilton-Brown. ‘I’ve gone back to doing my weekly shop at Fortnum & Mason now, just to make sure I don’t accidentally purchase something that’s buy-one-get-one-free.’

‘Hopefully withdrawing the products and stopping the adverts will stop any additional commoners coming in,’ continued Mr Thomas, ‘but we still have the problem of getting rid of the ones that have already started shopping with us. They’re still turning up, wandering around looking a bit lost and not buying anything. We’re thinking of putting up signs outside pointing out that Lidl down the road has some great deals on, or maybe we’ll just put down some traps baited with chicken nuggets so we can catch them humanely and release them in Asda.’
 
markysimmo said:
UK supermarket chain Waitrose has withdrawn its popular ‘essential’ range after discovering that the cut-price products had led to a number of poor people shopping there.

The discount brand, launched in 2009 to help Waitrose’s core customer base cope with the recession without having to downgrade one of their Range Rovers, was proving extremely successful. This success appears to have come at a price though, with the unwanted side effect of attracting the working class.

‘At first it worked fine, our regular shoppers were delighted with the new range, and common people were still put off by the Waitrose branding’ explained marketing director Rupert Thomas, ‘but as we advertised more, and made the mistake of including the prices of products in our TV commercials, we began to see some undesirable characters appearing in our aisles, enticed in by the prospect of finding a tin of beans for under £5, which they previously hadn’t expected from us. One horrid man even came in wearing a Hi-Vis vest looking for a sandwich. It was awful.’

The popularity of the ‘essential’ range had seen it quickly expand to include affordable versions of many foodstuffs and household items. To make matters worse Waitrose also starting pointing out that many of their prices were the same as those found in Tescos, attracting even more lower class shoppers and alienating many of their existing clientele. ‘It was so demeaning finding out that I wasn’t paying any more for my groceries than a common chav’ moaned former Waitrose customer Emily Hamilton-Brown. ‘I’ve gone back to doing my weekly shop at Fortnum & Mason now, just to make sure I don’t accidentally purchase something that’s buy-one-get-one-free.’

‘Hopefully withdrawing the products and stopping the adverts will stop any additional commoners coming in,’ continued Mr Thomas, ‘but we still have the problem of getting rid of the ones that have already started shopping with us. They’re still turning up, wandering around looking a bit lost and not buying anything. We’re thinking of putting up signs outside pointing out that Lidl down the road has some great deals on, or maybe we’ll just put down some traps baited with chicken nuggets so we can catch them humanely and release them in Asda.’
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