Dodgy meat

[Danishfurniturelover]

Makes me think gifter was right all along with some of the things he has been saying over the years. Im not to bothered at the thought of eating a horse i actually quite like how they taste but it does make you wonder what other crap is in the food they sell in the shops. I can not get over how many different factories a single ready meal will go through before it comes to this country.

Im determined to get down to 11 stone from 13 stone this summer for some cycling im doing and because of this i have stopped eating red meat. Do not think i will go back to it unless it is straight from the butcher, most of the stuff we get is from waitrose so you would hope better quality but i often when i do the shop just pop into tesco because it is easiest. Reckon i must have eaten some well dodgy stuff over the years.

Reminds me of something i heard once that most of the kebabs sold in london are actually cat meat. I do wonder if you can tell the difference between meats. Of course the are some areas in africa where they still eat humans, the worry is when we start inporting from over there. I do not mind the odd bit of horse meat but i do not want to eat a human.

 

[Dr Rosenrosen]

Parts is parts.

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[Richie]

The main problem is that these are items from in ready meals, pre made burgers etc...

Buy fresh meat from the chillers and you're fine.

I always advocate for more labelling on foods. IMO there quite literally can't be too much information on a food package, let the consumer then make the decision. Label on every product where all the ingredients are from. The if you don't want to eat meat from Romania or Poland or wherever, it's up to you.

I bought a bunch of coriander the other day and the package actually had the name of the farmer who grew it, thought that was good.

I'm very against regulation when it comes to banning things, but I'm all for enforcing more labelling and letting the consumers decide.

 

[Gordinho]

The main problem is that these are items from in ready meals, pre made burgers etc...

Buy fresh meat from the chillers and you're fine.

I always advocate for more labelling on foods. IMO there quite literally can't be too much information on a food package, let the consumer then make the decision. Label on every product where all the ingredients are from. The if you don't want to eat meat from Romania or Poland or wherever, it's up to you.

I bought a bunch of coriander the other day and the package actually had the name of the farmer who grew it, thought that was good.

I'm very against regulation when it comes to banning things, but I'm all for enforcing more labelling and letting the consumers decide.

Yet one more thing we're supposed to trust implicitly has been blown apart. I've never kidded myself that processed food is top quality but since the CJD crisis we're supposed to have had chains of custody for food, Red Tractor marks etc., let's be honest, if these things don't apply to processed beef too they're fairly meaningless.

The first thought that comes to mind is that veggies and vegans must be feeling pretty smug now but with corruption so widespread within the supply chain there's nothing to say they're not buying adulterated food either.

Gentlemen, get your spades and forks out, you have nothing to lose but your lawn.

 

[Danners9]

The main problem is that these are items from in ready meals, pre made burgers etc...

Buy fresh meat from the chillers and you're fine.

I always advocate for more labelling on foods. IMO there quite literally can't be too much information on a food package, let the consumer then make the decision. Label on every product where all the ingredients are from. The if you don't want to eat meat from Romania or Poland or wherever, it's up to you.

I bought a bunch of coriander the other day and the package actually had the name of the farmer who grew it, thought that was good.

I'm very against regulation when it comes to banning things, but I'm all for enforcing more labelling and letting the consumers decide.

They do that here, there is a huge emphasis on developing local economies in the Gulf region. Farming and agriculture is one of the boom industries. Of course some of it has to be climate controlled but I much prefer the idea of having fruit from local farms or from places nearby where it has grown at a normal pace in its natural environment.

Dates from Oman, fresh herbs from Oman, other fruit from Lebanon or fish caught that morning in the warm seas around here, rather than seeing products that would have to have been transported days/weeks ago to get here. Blueberries and raspberries from the US/Mexico are super expensive here, as you'd expect. It is around $10 a box and doesn't stay fresh for very long. Also, a lot of the cheap fish here is imported from Vietnam, it is intensively farmed and force fed to grow quickly. I'd rather not eat that. Beef from New Zealand is the only exception I make because local beef is fatty and also much more expensive, as well as badly cut in many cases! So much fat left on, bone to cut off.

Some of the UK supermarkets do label their food properly and it is nice, as you say, to see an actual farmer's name and the location of the farm on the produce. When it comes to Findus Lasagne or the cheap frozen burgers people have to make their decision in the knowledge they are sacrificing quality for cost. They shouldn't, however, have to sacrifice this much quality. It should still be as described on the label.

 

[Kenyan Spur]

Makes me think gifter was right all along with some of the things he has been saying over the years. Im not to bothered at the thought of eating a horse i actually quite like how they taste but it does make you wonder what other crap is in the food they sell in the shops. I can not get over how many different factories a single ready meal will go through before it comes to this country.

Im determined to get down to 11 stone from 13 stone this summer for some cycling im doing and because of this i have stopped eating red meat. Do not think i will go back to it unless it is straight from the butcher, most of the stuff we get is from waitrose so you would hope better quality but i often when i do the shop just pop into tesco because it is easiest. Reckon i must have eaten some well dodgy stuff over the years.

Reminds me of something i heard once that most of the kebabs sold in london are actually cat meat. I do wonder if you can tell the difference between meats. Of course the are some areas in africa where they still eat humans, the worry is when we start inporting from over there. I do not mind the odd bit of horse meat but i do not want to eat a human.

We are already exporting meat to you. But don't worry Chic. - the human meat is far too expansive. Like 50 pounds per hour, plus ALL expanses.
:-"

 

[thingonaspring]

did anybody else think twice before opening a thread from chich titled "dodgy meat"? 8-[

 

[Seedy Ron]

:lol:

Indeed, it was 50-50 whether he'd been to the clinic today and was in sharing mood.

 

[Seedy Ron]

I bought a bunch of coriander the other day and the package actually had the name of the farmer who grew it, thought that was good.

You're still taking that on trust though.

 

[indianspur]

mate of mine worked in a chicken factory and he told me that only the 100% disease free chickens would be packaged and sent to supermarkets as whole chickens.

he said that chicken meat sent to supermarkets packaged as legs, thighs, breasts etc came from diseased chickens who had to be chopped up due to tumours, abnormalities being found somewhere on the carcass

 

[Richie]

You're still taking that on trust though.

Well obviously that's true, but if you're going to start questioning every bit of information on every piece of food then you better buy a farm and grow it all yourself.

I'd be perfectly happy to buy a product that comes with a warning of possible meat cross-contamination. Obviously in some of these scenarios there has been blatant wrong doing, like having a burger as 80% horsemeat, but the majority of the products they have found horse meat in have only found traces of horse DNA.

 

[Richie]

mate of mine worked in a chicken factory and he told me that only the 100% disease free chickens would be packaged and sent to supermarkets as whole chickens.

he said that chicken meat sent to supermarkets packaged as legs, thighs, breasts etc came from diseased chickens who had to be chopped up due to tumours, abnormalities being found somewhere on the carcass

I get that this is a somewhat unsettling story, but as long as the meat doesn't make me ill then I really have a problem.

Would be interesting to see a labelling system denoting the health of the animal we are buying. If indeed the chicken factories look for these sorts of things, it shouldn't be too hard to put it on a package. Also, when it comes to things like burgers and sausages, I'd quite like to see a list of the animal parts that go in to making them.

 

[Gordinho]

did anybody else think twice before opening a thread from chich titled "dodgy meat"? 8-[

I opened it because it was from Chich and titled Dodgy Meat.

 

[Gordinho]

most of the stuff we get is from waitrose so you would hope better quality but i often when i do the shop just pop into tesco because it is easiest. Reckon i must have eaten some well dodgy stuff over the years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21434077

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21434077

ooh i bet the muslims are tinkled off the jews to

I just can not get my head round it all, i mean what is happening in the factory where they put all the stuff together?

Oh no not enough to beef to make that meal, never mind i have a bit of pork over here i will chuck that in. Or is it more serious then that and they are setting out to put other meat in meals because it is cheaper. Makes me wonder what poison they are putting in the ready meals to make them last longer.

We are pretty good for buying fresh food or cooking ourselves and because of me this year we are pretty much off red meat. Got to say i do not think i will be tempted ever again to get a ready meal if im runnning late, would rather go into the fish and chip shop, surely that is all just fish????

 

[scaramanga]

As someone who is quite definitely not the 'country type', I'd always assumed that horses would be far more expensive than cows to raise.

Are there any farmers who know the answer?

 

[Yermiyahu]

did anybody else think twice before opening a thread from chich titled "dodgy meat"? 8-[

I simply HAD to open it.

 

[Yermiyahu]

ooh i bet the muslims are tinkled off the jews to

I just can not get my head round it all, i mean what is happening in the factory where they put all the stuff together?

Oh no not enough to beef to make that meal, never mind i have a bit of pork over here i will chuck that in. Or is it more serious then that and they are setting out to put other meat in meals because it is cheaper. Makes me wonder what poison they are putting in the ready meals to make them last longer.

We are pretty good for buying fresh food or cooking ourselves and because of me this year we are pretty much off red meat. Got to say i do not think i will be tempted ever again to get a ready meal if im runnning late, would rather go into the fish and chip shop, surely that is all just fish????

Any Jew who would be concerned by the inclusion of non kosher meat products would like myself only be eating meat from a Kosher butcher , which is supervised from Slaughter to point of sale by a Rabbi. Thus the chance of a remotely observant Jew coming into contact with a Findus lasagne or the filth served for schoo lunch is zero

 

[Baleforce]

As someone who is quite definitely not the 'country type', I'd always assumed that horses would be far more expensive than cows to raise.

Are there any farmers who know the answer?

i'm not a farmer but i suppose my family has always been the country type, i've seen a lot more fields full of cows than i've seen fields full of horses so like you I assume the same

 

[yiddo2786]

As someone who is quite definitely not the 'country type', I'd always assumed that horses would be far more expensive than cows to raise.

Are there any farmers who know the answer?

The horses probably wouldn't be raised with the intention of killing them for food. Just once you have a dead horse Tesco will give you more money than Pritt Stick.