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Coronavirus

Cases down again - 6th day in a row. Europe going the other direction. Seems the autumn exit wave plan may actually be coming to fruition.
 
Saw the boosters is now around 7m people. Which is good. People in hospital (rather than hospitalisations) still pretty flat if increasing slightly. Should come down in a week.

Looking ok. Obviously we'd all be happier with less people ill. But doesn't look like extra measure are required.
 
If the cases went up 5 days in a row it would be banner headlines across all the MSM
Yet the other way and nothing, why does the MSM not report this good news
I think they actually want another not needed lockdown
 
If the cases went up 5 days in a row it would be banner headlines across all the MSM
Yet the other way and nothing, why does the MSM not report this good news
I think they actually want another not needed lockdown
Of course they do. People trapped in their homes by a totalitarian government have more time to look at all the ads on their pages.
 
Its the classic news bulletin format - 9 bad news stories, then finish with a puppy saved from drowning.

Yep and TV news will be 10 stories presented so that we question ourselves and are asked to engage with the story emotionally. They are evolving towards the content of a woman’s weekly magazine.

News is presented more respectfully to the listeners on the radio.
 
Yep and TV news will be 10 stories presented so that we question ourselves and are asked to engage with the story emotionally. They are evolving towards the content of a woman’s weekly magazine.

News is presented more respectfully to the listeners on the radio.

Been like that for ages is specially in the written press. Show the human story. All they need now is a voiceover from sean bean telling you how just £2 a month will stop the pandemic.
 
Been like that for ages is specially in the written press. Show the human story. All they need now is a voiceover from sean bean telling you how just £2 a month will stop the pandemic.

Haha. His like, especially Lenny Henry have taken most of my money over the years.
 
Yet the symptom study has cases still rising.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/data

Hopefully we see that starting to come down in the next week.

Tbh it's the amount of people in hospital thats important.

Covid Delta symptoms are the same as winter colds, so that's not really are concern this time of year

Actually the only measure anyone should be interested in now is number of vaccinated people in hospital with Covid as their primary ailment. Which would be virtually zero.
 
Covid Delta symptoms are the same as winter colds, so that's not really are concern this time of year

Actually the only measure anyone should be interested in now is number of vaccinated people in hospital with Covid as their primary ailment. Which would be virtually zero.

They get tested aswell. So it isn't due to increases in colds.

I'd agree with your second point but having unvaccinated in hospital means that resources are diverted from other illnesses.
 
To your first point. There are more than one vaccine. Each has gone through three stages of trials. Billions of people have taken them.

As for deaths, yes the number of deaths after having the vaccines is higher than for swine flu. More people have had the covid vaccine. There are more deaths from covid than swine flu. The ons has the number of people dying after having the vaccine in the uk as 1645 (again this is not to say their deaths were caused by the vaccine) from 100 million doses administered to roughly 50 million people. The number given for being caused by the vaccine is 9 in the uk. While people dying with covid as a contributing factor of death in the uk is around 150,000. Far more people have had the vaccine than have had the virus. Now i'm sure you are pretty good at maths and can realise that 150k is more than 1645? That you are 100 times (at least) better off getting the vaccine than covid? Or 15,000 times more if you take the official figure.
https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/10/04/how-many-people-have-died-as-a-result-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/

As i say, the swine flu rollout was stopped due to deaths and bad reactions occurring. A vaccine or other medicine is there to stop deaths. If deaths and bad reactions occur, then what usually happens is that they are taken out of use.
We could talk all day about numbers who've had the virus vs vaccine; one number may be overinflated and one may be underreported.
Given all that, what kind of number of deaths would make this vaccine not fit for use (let alone not fit to be pushed onto EVERYONE to take before they can participate in certain parts of society via vaccine mandates etc)?

Which country has mandated vaccines?

Any country which is rolling out vaccine passports/Covid passes etc.
So that's Lithuania, Australia, New Zealand, USA (though certain States are fighting against the Federal mandates) and, if we go to 'phase 2', here in the UK.
Care home staff are about to be subject to mandated vaccines and Sajid Javid is 'seriously considering' making vaccines mandatory for all NHS staff..

Given the fact that having the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or transmitting it (see here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ely-unjabbed-infect-cohabiters-study-suggests and here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59077036), you'd have to think at best this was madness...
 
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