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Contingency planning : If Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

DeanoAustin said:
Revenue or cost? You just said in a previous post that our wages in 2022/23 were 20% higher than 2021.
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Yep
And then don’t go down that much
The dosed wages are at £130/£140m
Then add players wages
That’s emasculated to range between £100 and £120m
We will see when we see the accounts soon
 
parklane1 said:
Fans are worse now then they have ever been in the past [ at most clubs] its a case of i want it and i want it now, it never appears to be seen by some that the more change you make the harder it is to progress. We live in a blame someone for all the ills that happens.
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And no doubt the amount of information, be it through newspaper articles, podcasts, social media etc - where everyone involved need to analyze every last bit of information again and again and again - even though most of us simply have no fudging clue.

Back in the days of checking scores on teletext, I had no clue what was going on - if I was lucky I could maybe catch the starting lineup at BBC 5 Live on a noisy radio (I had to go visit my grandma to get the best reception with my radio walkman, haha). There just weren't a lot to discuss beyond what actually happened in a game, if you were lucky enough to see it. So I think you're right. There are so many channels for people to moan and complain about everything (I do it too, of course, but limit myself to this place).

It's a new layer to football that I'm not too fond of myself, but it's here to stay, so we just need to adapt and ignore as much as possible of the silly stuff. Then again, what is silly will of course vary from person to person.
 
glasgowspur said:
£5-8m for 18 months and a tanked career isn't as good as £1m year and bonuses for doing a good job before moving to a more stable club.
Iraola comes here and crashes, and let's be honest it's a coin toss at the very best, he's in exactly the same position Potter is in now, Last chance saloon.
Not convinced it's the attractive job on the horizon.
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6M (middle ground), 3yr contract, it's literally 18 years worth of his current salary if he fails in 15 months

Everyone is saying he'll wait for a better job, no one in his position would, he just as easily could lose 2 players to injury, have the results drop off and this time next year be fired from Bournemouth with his next job likely to be another relegation candidate (and no prospects of better)

And what is the better job on the horizon? Pool will stick with Slot for another 3+ years, United has to give Amorim 2, and if they don't they will go big name to pacify, Chelsea is actually doing well, so again, probably a couple of years, Pep just signed extension, where is the better job that is open or likely to be?
 
Raziel said:
6M (middle ground), 3yr contract, it's literally 18 years worth of his current salary if he fails in 15 months

Everyone is saying he'll wait for a better job, no one in his position would, he just as easily could lose 2 players to injury, have the results drop off and this time next year be fired from Bournemouth with his next job likely to be another relegation candidate (and no prospects of better)

And what is the better job on the horizon? Pool will stick with Slot for another 3+ years, United has to give Amorim 2, and if they don't they will go big name to pacify, Chelsea is actually doing well, so again, probably a couple of years, Pep just signed extension, where is the better job that is open or likely to be?
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I wouldn't rule anything out at utd, but he'd be even more stupid to take that.
Well £18m payout is all fine if money is all you care about, but look at Potter, who you agree is now in situation where next job could be his last, I'm sure his payout from Chelsea is worth just as much.
You're also only looking at English jobs, which is where the money is, but maybe he fancies a return home at some point, or the relentless grind of the season here is not so appealing.
I'm just not convinced that money will be the major motivating factor to come to us, we are a basket case just now and a new manager walking in isn't going clear the injured list.
 
Daisuk said:
And no doubt the amount of information, be it through newspaper articles, podcasts, social media etc - where everyone involved need to analyze every last bit of information again and again and again - even though most of us simply have no fudging clue.

Back in the days of checking scores on teletext, I had no clue what was going on - if I was lucky I could maybe catch the starting lineup at BBC 5 Live on a noisy radio (I had to go visit my grandma to get the best reception with my radio walkman, haha). There just weren't a lot to discuss beyond what actually happened in a game, if you were lucky enough to see it. So I think you're right. There are so many channels for people to moan and complain about everything (I do it too, of course, but limit myself to this place).

It's a new layer to football that I'm not too fond of myself, but it's here to stay, so we just need to adapt and ignore as much as possible of the silly stuff. Then again, what is silly will of course vary from person to person.
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This is a great point. In the 80s and 90s, we’d lose, I’d sulk a bit and then just get on with life until the next game. Now I have no end of platforms to wallow in whatever misery I’m feeling and no end of media coverage to absorb. It can be never ending if you want it to be which usually doesn’t lead anywhere good.
 
Daisuk said:
And no doubt the amount of information, be it through newspaper articles, podcasts, social media etc - where everyone involved need to analyze every last bit of information again and again and again - even though most of us simply have no fudging clue.

Back in the days of checking scores on teletext, I had no clue what was going on - if I was lucky I could maybe catch the starting lineup at BBC 5 Live on a noisy radio (I had to go visit my grandma to get the best reception with my radio walkman, haha). There just weren't a lot to discuss beyond what actually happened in a game, if you were lucky enough to see it. So I think you're right. There are so many channels for people to moan and complain about everything (I do it too, of course, but limit myself to this place).

It's a new layer to football that I'm not too fond of myself, but it's here to stay, so we just need to adapt and ignore as much as possible of the silly stuff. Then again, what is silly will of course vary from person to person.
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And therin lays the problem, idiots who believe every thing they read and then go in to meltdown about it.
 
So if Levy were to sell, we're relying on him as a fan, not to sell to someone like this if they are offering more money!? Be careful what you wish for!
 
Lemonade Money said:
Anyone?
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PSR and Uefa's rules are that: wages + amortisation + agents fees shouldn't equal more than a certain percentage of turnover. Uefa will be 70%. Prem 85%.
Youth team and womens teams spending will not be a part of the calculation. Nor will anything else such as building a stadium, upkeep of the ground, stewards wages or dividends. Loan payments will only be counted if that money was spent on wages, amortisation or agents fees.
 
Lilbaz said:
PSR and Uefa's rules are that: wages + amortisation + agents fees shouldn't equal more than a certain percentage of turnover. Uefa will be 70%. Prem 85%.
Youth team and womens teams spending will not be a part of the calculation. Nor will anything else such as building a stadium, upkeep of the ground, stewards wages or dividends. Loan payments will only be counted if that money was spent on wages, amortisation or agents fees.
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So taking out dividends, and loan payments for a leverage buy out, do not count for PSR, but obviously impact on profit, and could potentially mean running at a loss but within PSR rules? Or, to not run at a loss, wages would have to be say 50%, rather than 70%?
 
Lemonade Money said:
So taking out dividends, and loan payments for a leverage buy out, do not count for PSR, but obviously impact on profit, and could potentially mean running at a loss but within PSR rules? Or, to not run at a loss, wages would have to be say 50%, rather than 70%?
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Dividends and loan repayments will not count unless the loan was to pay for players in the first team or their wages.
The clubs can run at a loss as long as the wages+ amortisation + agents fees are less than the percentage of turnover allowed.
So a new owner can buy say wolves. Spend £1bn on a new stadium. Buy loads of artwork to decorate the office. Buy loads of academy players. Give staff other than first team players huge wages etc...
 
Daisuk said:
And no doubt the amount of information, be it through newspaper articles, podcasts, social media etc - where everyone involved need to analyze every last bit of information again and again and again - even though most of us simply have no fudging clue.

Back in the days of checking scores on teletext, I had no clue what was going on - if I was lucky I could maybe catch the starting lineup at BBC 5 Live on a noisy radio (I had to go visit my grandma to get the best reception with my radio walkman, haha). There just weren't a lot to discuss beyond what actually happened in a game, if you were lucky enough to see it. So I think you're right. There are so many channels for people to moan and complain about everything (I do it too, of course, but limit myself to this place).

It's a new layer to football that I'm not too fond of myself, but it's here to stay, so we just need to adapt and ignore as much as possible of the silly stuff. Then again, what is silly will of course vary from person to person.
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The only nailed on reality we see every week is the 90/180 mins of football we see on the pitch every week. The rest is simply noise. Unfortunately that noise appears bigger than the game itself these days.

Does it detract from the game? Absolutely imo.

And mainly because it's rooted in moaning, complaining and negativity, but alas, that is the pin code to people's engagement and therefore the money train.

Limit it like you're doing mate. Wish you well as always x.
 
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