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Champions League 22/23 - Round of 16: AC Milan

metalgear said:
Except Chelsea? Though I think we're much improved and hardened since we last met, and they are in a very precarious position on the business end. Cheeky bid for anyone there?
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There has to be some kind of mental block with Chelsea. Either that, or they just have our number. Kinda like us with City. I honestly don't know what to make of it.

That being said, I think next year will be an entirely different proposition.
 
metalgear said:
Except Chelsea? Though I think we're much improved and hardened since we last met, and they are in a very precarious position on the business end. Cheeky bid for anyone there?
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I’ve grudgingly come to accept Havertz is a class act. That goal where he brought down and finished in one movement v Saudi Sportswashing Machine was the tipping point. Seems a bit injury prone though.
 
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Kandi1977 said:
The pool is shared between the qualified teams from the association 40-30-20-10% with 40% going to the league winner and 10 % to the 4th place team.
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And our Total TV pool is less than that of Arsenal and Man U. Guess that's how they try to placate participants of the mickey mouse competition.

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I always feel it’s better to get a tougher draw in the group stages. Should you qualify from the group you’ve then 2 strong teams are out, plus you won’t get drawn against the other team in the first knock-out game (as well as other teams from the PL).

Take our group in 18/19 - Barca, Inter, PSV

However, it’s the CL therefore there aren’t many teams that aren’t tough!
 
Juicebox said:
I always feel it’s better to get a tougher draw in the group stages. Should you qualify from the group you’ve then 2 strong teams are out, plus you won’t get drawn against the other team in the first knock-out game (as well as other teams from the PL).

Take our group in 18/19 - Barca, Inter, PSV

However, it’s the CL therefore there aren’t many teams that aren’t tough!
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Small club mentality! We should not fear anyone. They should fear us!
And I think they do. I don't think many teams would want to face a Conte team with Kane and Son on fire.
 
Juicebox said:
I always feel it’s better to get a tougher draw in the group stages. Should you qualify from the group you’ve then 2 strong teams are out, plus you won’t get drawn against the other team in the first knock-out game (as well as other teams from the PL).

Take our group in 18/19 - Barca, Inter, PSV

However, it’s the CL therefore there aren’t many teams that aren’t tough!
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I think it's always best to get a draw that provides the best away days.:D
 
Kandi1977 said:
Small club mentality! We should not fear anyone. They should fear us!
And I think they do. I don't think many teams would want to face a Conte team with Kane and Son on fire.
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I really do think that's true. Our CL runs have been eye-catching, with qualification from some tough groups and wins over some top, top clubs. Not forgetting that appearance in the final, of course. If we were in Pot 3, we'd definitely be one of the teams that everyone wants to avoid. As it is (and MASSIVE thanks to our Europa Conference run*), we're in Pot 2 and right at home there. Sure, other clubs will probably want to avoid Chelsea, Barcelona, Juve and Atletico, but we're probably scarier than Sevilla and Leipzig.

Lurking in the qualifiers are Benfica, Rangers and PSV, amongst others.

* Thanks to @greatwhitenorf for bringing this one up. That 5000 points took us to 83k. Without it, we'd be behind Ajax (82.5k), Porto (80k) and Arsenal (80k), and level with Villarreal and Dortmund. So maybe in Pot 3, depending on how they break the tie between us and Dortmund (with Porto in Pot 1 already and Ajax in 1 or 2 depending on whether Liverpool win the whole damn thing). Two massive seasons coming up as we've got 21k and then 26k points to defend.
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022–23_UEFA_Champions_League
 
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Kandi1977 said:
Small club mentality! We should not fear anyone. They should fear us!
And I think they do. I don't think many teams would want to face a Conte team with Kane and Son on fire.
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Maybe I didn't explain it correctly, playing the tougher teams early is surely the opposite?? Wishing a weaker draw to help ensure you get through would imo be more small time. Win/Qualify from a 'group of death' will if anything create even more fear in opponents and increase confidence and belief within the squad and perhaps more importantly the fanbase too.
Once in the knockout rounds then it's about beating a team over 2 legs, and personally I don't care at that point who it is we play as long as we win the tie.
 
Juicebox said:
I always feel it’s better to get a tougher draw in the group stages. Should you qualify from the group you’ve then 2 strong teams are out, plus you won’t get drawn against the other team in the first knock-out game (as well as other teams from the PL).

Take our group in 18/19 - Barca, Inter, PSV

However, it’s the CL therefore there aren’t many teams that aren’t tough!
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There's a time for romanticism and a time for pragmatism. Back then, that really was an incredible group to come through, especially in such dramatic fashion. However, to maintain the increasingly valuable co-efficient level, we could really use a good run in CL next season. Not just qualifying from our group, but outright winning as many games as possible to stack up the points. After this coming season ends, we drop 21 co-eff points. The following year, we drop the 26 amassed on our run to the final.
 
greatwhitenorf said:
There's a time for romanticism and a time for pragmatism. Back then, that really was an incredible group to come through, especially in such dramatic fashion. However, to maintain the increasingly valuable co-efficient level, we could really use a good run in CL next season. Not just qualifying from our group, but outright winning as many games as possible to stack up the points. After this coming season ends, we drop 21 co-eff points. The following year, we drop the 26 amassed on our run to the final.
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Agreed. The easier draw the better. Though it's not always easy to know which teams/games will be easier. That Inter side was nowhere near as good as the season before, luckily. A big name, "glory" team that are no longer as good as their name suggests is good.

Though also good to get some "new" teams, some we haven't played for a while.
 
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