Berahino in January for £25m?

[Baleforce]

so no time to sign replacements, which they had done already

if they needed players for other positions shouldn't they have been doing that anyway, regardless of whether they sold a striker, also wouldn't Pulis have hung around to be involved in that

my opinion is that they are reverse engineering the situation in attempt to cover up the fudge up, Pulis was told he was going, Berahino had been told he could go, the board had decided to sell, Peace was trying to "win" by getting the price up and played one hand too many

 

[Finney Is Back]

Bet if we had offered a City type bid say £30m 'ish they would have found the time to get the transfer done!

So seeing as we were never going to offer a City type bid we should've ensured our 'final' offer was made several days in advance of the end of the transfer window instead of with about 2 hours of the window to go.

so no time to sign replacements, which they had done already
if they needed players for other positions shouldn't they have been doing that anyway, regardless of whether they sold a striker, also wouldn't Pulis have hung around to be involved in that

my opinion is that they are reverse engineering the situation in attempt to cover up the fudge up, Pulis was told he was going, Berahino had been told he could go, the board had decided to sell, Peace was trying to "win" by getting the price up and played one hand too many

I would imagine that WBA couldn't afford to sign players for other positions without bringing in some money first, especially as they had already had a reasonably large net spend.... Selling a spare 25 million pound centre forward would've given them that money to spend, but it's impossible to spend that money with only about 2 hours of a transfer window left.

 

[Finney Is Back]

It just screams of them trying to make themselves look better imv - if they didn't want to sell why are they upset that they couldn't reach an agreement? If they did want to sell, why were they playing it out in the open?
Personally if I was another chairman it'd be Peace and WBA who is think have come out of this the worse, fudge getting involved in one of their circuses

I think it is pretty clear they wanted to sell.

I want to sell my house at the moment.... It doesn't mean that I will sell it for only 50% of it's market rate, nor does it mean that I would sell it (even for it's market value) if the offer came just before a deadline that once past I cannot buy myself a new property to live in for another 4 months.

Of course if somebody offered me somewhere close to my valuation of the property a few weeks before that deadline, I would consider that offer, while looking around seeing if I could do a deal or two on some new property.

 

[billyiddo]

I think it is pretty clear they wanted to sell.

I want to sell my house at the moment.... It doesn't mean that I will sell it for only 50% of it's market rate, nor does it mean that I would sell it (even for it's market value) if the offer came just before a deadline that once past I cannot buy myself a new property to live in for another 4 months.

Of course if somebody offered me somewhere close to my valuation of the property a few weeks before that deadline, I would consider that offer, while looking around seeing if I could do a deal or two on some new property.

If someone wanted to buy your house but not for the price you was selling then you won't sell to them, it's no fault of theirs for seeing if you could lower your asking price

 

[Finney Is Back]

If someone wanted to buy your house but not for the price you was selling then you won't sell to them, it's no fault of theirs for seeing if you could lower your asking price

Absolutely.... However what about a scenario where a buyer offers the amount that I want but they offer it only 2 hours before a deadline I have to find myself somewhere new to live?... I would have course refuse the offer because the chances are I end up homeless. If they offered 5% less than I wanted 2 weeks before that deadline however, I would have course consider the offer while looking around and seeing what new property I could buy.

 

[billyiddo]

Absolutely.... However what about a scenario where a buyer offers the amount that I want but they offer it only 2 hours before a deadline I have to find myself somewhere new to live?... I would have course refuse the offer because the chances are I end up homeless. If they offered 5% less than I wanted 2 weeks before that deadline however, I would have course consider the offer while looking around and seeing what new property I could buy.

That's not our responsibility though, if WBA wanted to sell or thought it was likely to happen then they should have sorted business before hand or set it up to be concluded - very much like we done the summer Bale left...

 

[StephenH]

So seeing as we were never going to offer a City type bid we should've ensured our 'final' offer was made several days in advance of the end of the transfer window instead of with about 2 hours of the window to go.

You never say never in business @Finney Is Back. Success is just an email away! or is it still Fax?
It just a bidding game no big deal. Most people dont have a hissy fit like Peace did, he knows the press are always gagging for this type of thing and fans on both sides will lap it up - look as this thread it bares testimony to it.

It was a very strange window this summer. Spurs did some very good early business in my opinion and Son and Clint were the icing on the cake for me. There I go, on about icing again!

 

[Lemonade Money]

Why would you state 'without being able to get a replacement in' if the fee wasn't acceptable? Surely the fee has to be acceptable for you to consider selling/looking at alternatives.
Too many excuses.

 

[mudshark]

ATEOTD, Peace has stuck two fingers up, and it's my guess they will remain in the air.

 

[parklane1]

If think it is you who is missing the point here.... It wasn't about WBA buying a replacement for Berahino, it was about them being able to use the money to strengthen other positions in the squad. With no time in the transfer window left for them to do this there was absolutely no point in losing one of their best players simply to have some money sitting in a bank account for 4 months that they couldn't use, they might as well instead keep the player and benefit from the goals that he will get them.

I am not missing the point at all, I am just not speculating like you are.

 

[parklane1]

We made our offer(s) and WBA didn't accept it(them) hardly crime of the century, it's only because West Brom have made this a circus that it's become such a saga... It seems the attitude among Spurs fans is if we don't get the player it's a fudge up on our part, which is a bit silly, especially if we're working on a tight budget whilst the stadium is being built and have to be creative with our bidding. We're under as much obligation to pay what WBA want for a player as they are to accept any offer we put forward, but those with a natural disposition to blame Levy will do so regardless

To much sense it that for some especially those who blame Levy for the sun coming up.

 

[parklane1]

And there we have it.... Deal was there to be done but we messed it up by going in too stingy early on and then too late in the end. Clear that Levy lost this battle (and I think we have hung the player out to dry a little as well).

We have nothing, all I hear there is a lot of blah, blah to please the WBA fans.

 

[parklane1]

I think it is pretty clear they wanted to sell.

I want to sell my house at the moment.... It doesn't mean that I will sell it for only 50% of it's market rate, nor does it mean that I would sell it (even for it's market value) if the offer came just before a deadline that once past I cannot buy myself a new property to live in for another 4 months.

Of course if somebody offered me somewhere close to my valuation of the property a few weeks before that deadline, I would consider that offer, while looking around seeing if I could do a deal or two on some new property.

So are you saying you would turn down the only offer you may get on your house, seems to me you would be foolish to do that.

But its a silly comparison anyway.

 

[parklane1]

what a load of waffle

Indeed.

 

[Jordinho]

Absolutely.... However what about a scenario where a buyer offers the amount that I want but they offer it only 2 hours before a deadline I have to find myself somewhere new to live?... I would have course refuse the offer because the chances are I end up homeless. If they offered 5% less than I wanted 2 weeks before that deadline however, I would have course consider the offer while looking around and seeing what new property I could buy.

But you've already sorted a new place. What you'd like is some new furniture or a car.

 

[Finney Is Back]

So are you saying you would turn down the only offer you may get on your house, seems to me you would be foolish to do that.

But its a silly comparison anyway.

If I end up homeless for 4 months.... Absolutely!... I would then consider offers again in 4 months time when I can also buy myself a new property

 

[parklane1]

If I end up homeless for 4 months.... Absolutely!... I would then consider offers again in 4 months time when I can also buy myself a new property

And run the risk of losing a buyer for your house? as I say I doubt that but again the comparison is a silly one.

 

[Finney Is Back]

And run the risk of losing a buyer for your house? as I say I doubt that but again the comparison is a silly one.

Absolutely.... I know my house is a very good one and I would be very likely to sell it in 4 months time if I wanted to, in fact I would perhaps be even more likely to be able to sell it for the price I wanted in 4 months time as the market in general is rising and house buyers tend to be even more desperate at that time of year.

 

[parklane1]

Absolutely.... I know my house is a very good one and I would be very likely to sell it in 4 months time if I wanted to, in fact I would perhaps be even more likely to be able to sell it for the price I wanted in 4 months time as the market in general is rising and house buyers tend to be even more desperate at that time of year.

We are going around in circles then, its nothing like the situation with WBA but if you are convinced it is we will have to agree to disagree.

And Peace is the bad guy in this not Levy but there will always be some who will jump on the Levy ( is to blame) mantra bandwagon, thankfully it is a small one.

 

[Finney Is Back]

We are going around in circles then, its nothing like the situation with WBA but if you are convinced it is we will have to agree to disagree.

And Peace is the bad guy in this not Levy but there will always be some who will jump on the Levy ( is to blame) mantra bandwagon, thankfully it is a small one.

I think they are both about as bad as each other.... However my frustration is with Levy, because he is the chairman of the club that I love. I have no affinity for WBA so don't care what happens to their club.

If I put myself in Peace's shoes I think I would've done exactly the same thing that he did. I guess time will tell what happens with Berahino, but my guess is that if WBA end up selling him then they will get a hell of a lot more for him than we were offering up to the 31st August and won't get any less for him than we were offering on the 1st of September.