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Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: the media are desparate for AVB to fail
Generally great post. I do think it's perfectly reasonable to criticize/pass comments and thoughts on the match on forums such as these BUT agree that long-term there MUST be patience and there MUST be support. I never leave early and I never ever boo our own players at matches. I believe, long-term, it will absolutely pan out supremely well. I do think a couple of very, very fundamental issues need sorting. Watching the dippers today, I couldn't help but wonder how well Allen would do in our side (probably in place of Livermore - I know sefnot, don't have a fit of surprise!-) but in lieu of this, I feel Tom Carroll has to be groomed and drafted in ASAP...
Generally great post. I do think it's perfectly reasonable to criticize/pass comments and thoughts on the match on forums such as these BUT agree that long-term there MUST be patience and there MUST be support. I never leave early and I never ever boo our own players at matches. I believe, long-term, it will absolutely pan out supremely well. I do think a couple of very, very fundamental issues need sorting. Watching the dippers today, I couldn't help but wonder how well Allen would do in our side (probably in place of Livermore - I know sefnot, don't have a fit of surprise!-) but in lieu of this, I feel Tom Carroll has to be groomed and drafted in ASAP...
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: the media are desparate for AVB to fail
From his performance today he would not do well at all. He had an awesome pass accuracy, however his creativity was pretty much zip.
From his performance today he would not do well at all. He had an awesome pass accuracy, however his creativity was pretty much zip.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: AVB The Facts
I agree except I don't think Parker will be fit enough to start yet so Sandro or Livermore to start. Surprisingly the latter has played better than the former so far.
I agree except I don't think Parker will be fit enough to start yet so Sandro or Livermore to start. Surprisingly the latter has played better than the former so far.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: AVB The Facts
Wow, that is very punchy DHSF. The guy is not Pele but we've had far worse in the squad. We've got worse in the squad. He hasn't played all that well so far, but the guy is not bad, give him a chance to gel in.
Wow, that is very punchy DHSF. The guy is not Pele but we've had far worse in the squad. We've got worse in the squad. He hasn't played all that well so far, but the guy is not bad, give him a chance to gel in.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
Re: AVB The Facts
Definitely, I too have my concerns, but some seem to be calling for AVB to be killed on the centre spot before the next match.
Fair enough but we played well at Saudi Sportswashing Machine. The first 30 mins against West Brom we were ripping into them but had Defoe in the middle who couldn't get near anything.
The Norwich game we were super-flat, that was really bad. Maybe all the players had been up til 2am helping Levy to fill in the forms for Moutinho. I agree Norwich was very poor particularly the first half. Eventually somebody managed to shift the ball and shoot (Dembele). That's all it was, no rocket science, no lung bursting 50 yard sprint, just a touch of class.
I've just seen Saudi Sportswashing Machine draw with Aston Villa at home. Villa are tipped to get relegated and Saudi Sportswashing Machine are lauded as the best thing going.
I've just seen Man Utd* struggle badly at Southampton and be rescued in the last 5 minutes by 2 strikes from their £60m pound man (fee and wages were something like that IIRC) who got a tidy hattrick.
How much better we would be if we could lash out that sort of cash on one player.
Liverpool haven't scored and lost at home.
I know you'll say "Forget about them, I'm talking about Spurs" but it does take time for teams to bed in and get things right, we should all be concerned but not to the point of knee jerking and making conclusions, as the jury is out for now, far too early IMO.
*If Man U had got Defoe up front, they too would have struggled... Adebayor should be match fit now so if he starts the next game I think we'll be in business as Defoe just hasn't got it.
Definitely, I too have my concerns, but some seem to be calling for AVB to be killed on the centre spot before the next match.
Fair enough but we played well at Saudi Sportswashing Machine. The first 30 mins against West Brom we were ripping into them but had Defoe in the middle who couldn't get near anything.
The Norwich game we were super-flat, that was really bad. Maybe all the players had been up til 2am helping Levy to fill in the forms for Moutinho. I agree Norwich was very poor particularly the first half. Eventually somebody managed to shift the ball and shoot (Dembele). That's all it was, no rocket science, no lung bursting 50 yard sprint, just a touch of class.
I've just seen Saudi Sportswashing Machine draw with Aston Villa at home. Villa are tipped to get relegated and Saudi Sportswashing Machine are lauded as the best thing going.
I've just seen Man Utd* struggle badly at Southampton and be rescued in the last 5 minutes by 2 strikes from their £60m pound man (fee and wages were something like that IIRC) who got a tidy hattrick.
How much better we would be if we could lash out that sort of cash on one player.
Liverpool haven't scored and lost at home.
I know you'll say "Forget about them, I'm talking about Spurs" but it does take time for teams to bed in and get things right, we should all be concerned but not to the point of knee jerking and making conclusions, as the jury is out for now, far too early IMO.
*If Man U had got Defoe up front, they too would have struggled... Adebayor should be match fit now so if he starts the next game I think we'll be in business as Defoe just hasn't got it.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Re: AVB The Facts
Nothing like getting behind our players, what a pathetic post after only 3 games
Nothing like getting behind our players, what a pathetic post after only 3 games
Re: AVB The Facts
Think some people need to be aware of the term quality not quantity. There are a few posters posting a lot of 1 line drivel to every single post that criticises the start we have made.
Its this simple, AVB has made a brick start and we have been awful. This is a summary of the opening 3 games. They were brick with some real dodgy decisions from the manager. How else can we sum up the opening 3 games ?
Making an honest assessment of the first 3 performances doesnt mean we don't recognise that it is early days and could just be a bad start, or that the manager doesnt need time. However "transitional" people may see this season, we still have to produce results and perform well during that time. Time for AVB to win a few games or we let someone else make the transition (funny i could never imagine man utd, chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project or Arsenal accepting transition seasons, its instant top 4 or sacked).
Think some people need to be aware of the term quality not quantity. There are a few posters posting a lot of 1 line drivel to every single post that criticises the start we have made.
Its this simple, AVB has made a brick start and we have been awful. This is a summary of the opening 3 games. They were brick with some real dodgy decisions from the manager. How else can we sum up the opening 3 games ?
Making an honest assessment of the first 3 performances doesnt mean we don't recognise that it is early days and could just be a bad start, or that the manager doesnt need time. However "transitional" people may see this season, we still have to produce results and perform well during that time. Time for AVB to win a few games or we let someone else make the transition (funny i could never imagine man utd, chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project or Arsenal accepting transition seasons, its instant top 4 or sacked).
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: AVB The Facts
it is quite sad that the only player worth anything after 3 games is our goalkeeper. AND we've just brought supposedly one of the best goalkeepers in the world too. very sad
Not exactly.. it made me feel sad writing it...
it is quite sad that the only player worth anything after 3 games is our goalkeeper. AND we've just brought supposedly one of the best goalkeepers in the world too. very sad
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: the media are desparate for AVB to fail
Thing he did do though, was feed players who (supposedly) can create. I genuinely feel that both Bale and Lennon looked bewildered yesterday as both are used to both having a world class cycler like Modric to help feed them as well as full-backs who push on. I think he's exactly the sort of player who would get our main men (Bale, Lennon, Dembele) on the ball quickly...
It is sinking in what a loss VdV is without having secured Moutinho. Oh well, onwards and upwards...
Thing he did do though, was feed players who (supposedly) can create. I genuinely feel that both Bale and Lennon looked bewildered yesterday as both are used to both having a world class cycler like Modric to help feed them as well as full-backs who push on. I think he's exactly the sort of player who would get our main men (Bale, Lennon, Dembele) on the ball quickly...
It is sinking in what a loss VdV is without having secured Moutinho. Oh well, onwards and upwards...
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Re: **Official** Andre Villas Boas - Head Coach
Indeed, it might be, and there's always a risk when bringing a young player into a pressure situation... but sometimes, well, you have to gamble...
Indeed, it might be, and there's always a risk when bringing a young player into a pressure situation... but sometimes, well, you have to gamble...
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Re: AVB The Facts
Liverpool have made a bad start. Man United could have easily lost their first 2 games after today. Arsenal started off with 2 uninspiring draws. This is a funny season. We were terrible against Norwich but it's been a strange start all round. That's a big indicator that we can't read too much into these games. Sometimes, implementing a new way of playing simply does take time. City, United, Arsenal all have managers that have been there a few years and Chelsea have a sugar daddy as well as coming off the confidence of a CL win. Liverpool are trying to implement a system. It isn't going to be easy.
Liverpool have made a bad start. Man United could have easily lost their first 2 games after today. Arsenal started off with 2 uninspiring draws. This is a funny season. We were terrible against Norwich but it's been a strange start all round. That's a big indicator that we can't read too much into these games. Sometimes, implementing a new way of playing simply does take time. City, United, Arsenal all have managers that have been there a few years and Chelsea have a sugar daddy as well as coming off the confidence of a CL win. Liverpool are trying to implement a system. It isn't going to be easy.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
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DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: AVB The Facts
Ok dislike is a harsh word. I guess its coming out wrong. My main gripe is that I see no point in him in our team. Dont get me wrong - I wouldnt boo him or get on his back etc at a game so dont think I would be doing that. My main point is I am unsure what his purpose and value is - especially now that we have Dempsey.
Its not about his performances or whatever as I had said this at the time of signing - its about 8m down the drain really. I think us getting in Dempsey and Sig evidences a scatter approach to the transfers. UNLESS Dempsey is supposed to be playing on the right of the front three?
Ok dislike is a harsh word. I guess its coming out wrong. My main gripe is that I see no point in him in our team. Dont get me wrong - I wouldnt boo him or get on his back etc at a game so dont think I would be doing that. My main point is I am unsure what his purpose and value is - especially now that we have Dempsey.
Its not about his performances or whatever as I had said this at the time of signing - its about 8m down the drain really. I think us getting in Dempsey and Sig evidences a scatter approach to the transfers. UNLESS Dempsey is supposed to be playing on the right of the front three?
We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
Re: AVB The Facts
Agreed........give the manager a chance.... but for gods sake leave Sandro on the pitch!
anyway.... we have to see some common sense .....football wise....
Agreed........give the manager a chance.... but for gods sake leave Sandro on the pitch!
anyway.... we have to see some common sense .....football wise....