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Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own

Denmark Spur said:
Julien Laurens ‏@LaurensJulien

More talks today between PSG ans Villas-Boas. AVB is definitely the priority now. £10M release clause obviously not a pb for PSG.
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First bale and now AVB, who's next....FFS.

If this was to happen it would be the first time that I can think of where a manager has left us for another club.
 
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it really does make you think what the fudging point is with all these money clubs, one or two you can handle but the way things are going with more added to the list every year it just makes it an impossible task to go anywhere.

part of me wishes they'd make their own european oil money league and leave the rest of football to re-invent itself - i could handle that - at least then you'd know you where you were and didn't have the false hope of ever competing alongside them.
 
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There is no way AVB will turn down £10m a year.

I hope Levy is working on a replacement ASAP
 
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NWND said:
There is no way AVB will turn down £10m a year.

I hope Levy is working on a replacement ASAP
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He won't be paid 10m a year. They'd have to be mad to do that. Fergie was only on like 8m a year.


The 10m is for him to be released from Spurs.
 
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Spursalot said:
He won't be paid 10m a year. They'd have to be mad to do that. Fergie was only on like 8m a year.


The 10m is for him to be released from Spurs.
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French media reporting £40m deal. £10m buy-out clause then £10m a year salary for 3 years. That's what's supposedly on the table
 
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I just wonder what Bale would think if AVB was to reject PSG and say he wants to stay at Tottenham. I reckon Bale would see it as AVB really liking it here at Spurs and wanting to turn us into something, showing passion and ambition.
 
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Mumorn said:
I just wonder what Bale would think if AVB was to reject PSG and say he wants to stay at Tottenham. I reckon Bale would see it as AVB really liking it here at Spurs and wanting to turn us into something, showing passion and ambition.
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It depends on what Bale wants to do, I've been in positions where I had brilliant father figures who led exceptionally either at work or higher education, in the latter I remember my head of course and favourite lecturer course rejecting a job at a better uni, but sometimes I wanted more from where I was at, felt like I could and should be somewhere else, aiming higher albeit in day dreams or serious considerations.
 
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thfcsteff said:
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It's silly season alright...
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these supposed talks i thought avb was on holiday....not that would stop psg representatives im sure.......

go on Emirates Marketing Project do you want our tea lady????????

why why oh why is everyone trying to destroy us?????? or does the media just loathe Tottenham hotspur.

Arise Sir Levy and tell the vagrants from madrid & psg to go forth and do one!!!!
 
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we can survive without AVB. Have not been impressed with any match he was in control of where bale didnt play...and in quite a few matches that had bale we lacked invention and real insght into how to break down opponents, just like a few of our managers before him

i dont see this guy as supremely special. He can be replaced

Bale on the other hand would be a big blow. but if that happens at least we get top billings and can at least do some kind of patch up job

no matter what happens i'm Tottenham Hotspur first and foremost...not bale / AVB .

Plus you can guarantee that in the same way arsenal have become accustomed to CL footy and the revenue / exposure it brings, the current board / owners have grown accustomed to the success we have had over the last 6 years and if it looks like we wont be making europe or making serious inroads in the domestic league / competitions....they will get the money out and try to fix it

plus i cant wait for the stadium to get finished
 
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africanspurs said:
we can survive without AVB. Have not been impressed with any match he was in control of where bale didnt play...and in quite a few matches that had bale we lacked invention and real insght into how to break down opponents, just like a few of our managers before him

i dont see this guy as supremely special. He can be replaced

Bale on the other hand would be a big blow. but if that happens at least we get top billings and can at least do some kind of patch up job

no matter what happens i'm Tottenham Hotspur first and foremost...not bale / AVB .

Plus you can guarantee that in the same way arsenal have become accustomed to CL footy and the revenue / exposure it brings, the current board / owners have grown accustomed to the success we have had over the last 6 years and if it looks like we wont be making europe or making serious inroads in the domestic league / competitions....they will get the money out and try to fix it

plus i cant wait for the stadium to get finished
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You are right, we are Spurs first and foremost, so what i want foremost is to keep the manager that managed to get last season out of Bale.

Bale seems to think AVB had a very special impact upon his game, so why should we be the ones to decide that AVB didn't?
 
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spurs' magna carter said:
First bale and now AVB, who's next....FFS.

If this was to happen it would be the first time that I can think of where a manager has left us for another club.
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I think you are right. Can't remember any other manager leaving Spurs for another club before. We seldom keep a manager for more than 3 years anyway. So, AVB is probably thinking should he jump before being pushed.
 
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Spursalot said:
You are right, we are Spurs first and foremost, so what i want foremost is to keep the manager that managed to get last season out of Bale.

Bale seems to think AVB had a very special impact upon his game, so why should we be the ones to decide that AVB didn't?
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because i dont pay mind to lip service from footballers. seeing as most of them lie to the press, embellish, go through the pr motions etc... the only thing that AVB was play bale full towards the second part of the season...end of the first half...in a position that our last manager played him in part time.

AVB didnt play bale up front from the get go. bale coming into those statistical prowess was a revelation to some, not to others. he would have done the same thing season before last if we hadnt gone on a bad run

the next guy to come in will know where to play bale and bales confidence now is so high that it cant come down completely. he knows where he has to be to get goals...he is still learning how to make use of double and triple team attention......and he knows where he has to be to affect the game in a more general sense...(supply, width, stretching oppo, movement etc)

the talent is bale, if he goes then so be it...but his departure is quite ALOT more of an issue than AVB. I wouldnt be to saddened if AVB left, many good managers out there....many of them. Its a profession where you just need the right guy for the right climate. it isnt a profession that has as often the impact of signing a world class player does instantaneously
 
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Granted african. You raise great points, a lot of which, i agree with. However, last seasons squad was missing madric vdv and king and big injuries to YK and Sandro. Personally i think AVB showed enough for me to believe that if he can make the squad his own, we can go places.
 
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Eriktheviking said:
Granted african. You raise great points, a lot of which, i agree with. However, last seasons squad was missing madric vdv and king and big injuries to YK and Sandro. Personally i think AVB showed enough for me to believe that if he can make the squad his own, we can go places.
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i am not sitting here saying that he is a bad manager. far from it..i think he is very good infact. i too think if we keep bale and bring back some of the those injured players and get maybe 2 or 3 more players we will be right there in the mix again for CL....
I just have no inkling of world war Z scenarios if he leaves for a mega rich team. If anything i think he would be silly not to take that role from a career perspective

If bale leaves, then we would have lost a vital asset of the team, but even then i still think in a 3 year plan we would be alright.

plus if AVB is flirting with PSG, how we handle ourselves in the market i VERY important
 
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africanspurs said:
because i dont pay mind to lip service from footballers. seeing as most of them lie to the press, embellish, go through the pr motions etc... the only thing that AVB was play bale full towards the second part of the season...end of the first half...in a position that our last manager played him in part time.

AVB didnt play bale up front from the get go. bale coming into those statistical prowess was a revelation to some, not to others. he would have done the same thing season before last if we hadnt gone on a bad run

the next guy to come in will know where to play bale and bales confidence now is so high that it cant come down completely. he knows where he has to be to get goals...he is still learning how to make use of double and triple team attention......and he knows where he has to be to affect the game in a more general sense...(supply, width, stretching oppo, movement etc)

the talent is bale, if he goes then so be it...but his departure is quite ALOT more of an issue than AVB. I wouldnt be to saddened if AVB left, many good managers out there....many of them. Its a profession where you just need the right guy for the right climate. it isnt a profession that has as often the impact of signing a world class player does instantaneously
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I disagree, the changes a new manager would make to our tactics and formation would have far more of an impact to the new season than one player leaving, even a player of the calibre of Bale. Can you even name a manager who hasn't moved already and that you think would be able to improve us as a team?

I can think of lots of players that we could go out and get that would improve us as a team were we to sell Bale. Replacing players is far easier than replacing a manager, simply due to the sheer number of players out there.


You don't pay mind to one of our players saying good things about our manager? Why not? The player doesn't have to say anything, he could just talk about other things. That Bale decided himself to give a lot of the credit to AVB shows how much he believes that he has helped his game. Add in to that some of the heat of the moment celebrations, oh look, he rushes over to AVB and jumps on him.


Also, what makes you think Bale would even want to stick around if we lose our manager? If he's going to be under a new manager, why not just go and do it at a new club whilst being paid a whole lot more money?


Also to add, AVB didn't play Bale up front full stop. He played him in an AM position, however his real strength was drifting in from the right hand side. You just have to watch his goals from the season to see how devastating he is cutting in from the right.


In the end, if we lose one of them, it will make it far more likely that the other will leave.
 
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Kingdawson said:
Losing bale is a far bigger blow than losing AVB imo.
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I'm not so sure. I think Bale is gone if not this year then next. We'd get in excess of £80m for him so at least we can get three or more quality players if spent wisely which I'd trust AVB to do. However I think with AVB we could really build something special, the guy is such a good fit for us - we are an up and coming young side and so is he in managerial terms....
 
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Kingdawson said:
Losing bale is a far bigger blow than losing AVB imo.
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I disagree, bale goes we buy another player to plug in to that position

AVB goes then it's the start of another philosophy, new coaches coming in, squad will need shuffling again, it's a whole new 5 year plan
 
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