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3rd Place or FA Cup?
- Thread starter Jim Bob
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Id be more inclined to apologise if he didnt come out swinging
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
4th and FA Cup vs 3rd was never the options put forward :-"
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Get real. Were not finishing 3rd now. We are bottlejobs! 4th is looking iffy at this rate too. There's no way we will win at Stamford Bridge.
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
The gap was always going to close though. I had no illusions we would still be more than 4pts clear come March 30th.
Its still up for grabs, and no matter what you say, i'd still rather have our run-in in the last 8 games than Arsenal or Chelseas.
As posted in another thread, I think this could well go down to goal difference. So close that, who knows, that late goal by Jermain Defoe last weekend could still prove to be vital, who knows?
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Like a dog with a bone, and the will not win today :lol:
Did anyone ever claim that what Arsenal do doesn't matter?
Of course it matters. It matters because they are our closest challengers for 3rd. And it matters because they are our hated local rivals.
All that some of us have argued is that what Arsenal does is less important than what Spurs do. How can it be right that you even have a Spurs fan expressing a preference for Spurs to finish 5th and Arsenal 6th rather than Spurs in 4th and Arsenal 3rd?
So of course we all want Arsenal to lose tomorrow. And the week after that. And the week after that.
And of course we want to finish third, above them.
But, in a hypothetical situation in which either 3rd or the FA Cup is presented as a fait accompli, then some of us would take the FA Cup so long as not finishing third still meant finishing in the top four.
So enough of working yourself into a lather over straw man arguments!
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
For me the main thing is that momentum is with Arsenal and to a lesser extent Chelsea with a few wins on the bounce. Confidence is flowing through the Arsenal team, whereas we are mired in noble failure mode. fudge noble failure. I want Harry to sort this mess out on the training field and turn things around before it's too late.
Something significant has to change for either us or Arsenal for them not to finish above us, as much as it galls me to say it. If we find form that's great but I'll take anything - lucky sending off, OG, injury to RVP, anything.
Something significant has to change for either us or Arsenal for them not to finish above us, as much as it galls me to say it. If we find form that's great but I'll take anything - lucky sending off, OG, injury to RVP, anything.
To answer your first question yes. Some on here, just 2/3 days ago, said it doesn't matter what the scum do and that if we finish 4th and they finish 3rd it really isn't that big a deal. As totman says laughable attitude.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Of course it matters, but for me personally, winning a trophy, especially one as prestigeous as the FA cup is more important. The fact that they have gone 7 years without winning anything must hurt for them, then you add in their most hated rivals winning another trophy whilst they go potless again! Don't get me wrong, I'll be ecstatic if we get 3rd place mainly because it will be the club's highest league finish since 89/90 and it will make Wheelchair, Frimpong, Szczesny etc look like even bigger ****s than they do now, but you don't get to parade down the streets of Tottenham with a 3rd place trophy.
Granted but finishing above them is a massive achievement and one that I'd fudging love. If we don't do it this season the stigma that would be attached I fear would see us not doing it next season and the season after that etc...
I couldnt handle their fans giving it large.
Calm down, and then read Roys reply. Its all in there.
But they only said that in the specifically hypothetical context of this thread - that is, they would only accept Arsenal finishing third and Spurs fourth if it meant that Spurs had won the FA Cup and if finishing third had meant that we wouldn't win the FA Cup.
The context for this outcome is a mythical future.
Making naar-naar-told-you-so posts on the basis of present reality is therefore just pointlessly aggravating.
Perfectly calm, thanks. Considerably calmer than you were, I suspect, when you made your rather petulant post this morning!
Oh, and read my reply to Roy's reply. It's all in there.