Bedfordspurs
Bert Smith
Massive issue in the women’s game and has been for some time
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Xavi Simons
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robp135
Ilie Dumitrescu
They sure do.
robp135
Ilie Dumitrescu
Yes and the only other major club with a similar number of acl injuries is Madrid who also have the retractable pitch.
ricky2tricky4city
Paul Stewart
A ruptured ACL is better (oddly), you know where you are.
A partial tear (a full tear is a rupture) will open up options of managing it and specific muscle exercises to support and stabilise the knee. I think from the Maddison videos it sounded like he had this problem (a partial tear)the season before....and then in this pre season it fully ruptured on him.
Edit: I'm saying this in the context of a professional sportsmen
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We were in the top 6 for least injuries 2014-2024. Then Munn and Ange got rid of our medical team and hired Brighton's (who were 20th). Now we are 20th. Our team moved to Wolves (im not sure how they are doing since)
Robspur12
Johnny Morrison
I remember we had quite a few injuries in Poch's last full season in 2019. That lead to the infamous midfield of Winks and Sissoko
Xavi and Maddisons didn't happen on our pitch, so it's not a factor there.
There should be regular reviews of every department, whether things are going well or not.
Could playing on our pitch weaken certain high impact areas over time - I've never seen anyone speak out and say playing on our pitch feels any different.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
Ask them to defer their fee based on results.
robp135
Ilie Dumitrescu
Wear and tear over time.
tommysvr
Pat van den Hauwe
Multibillion pound companies often employ outside help to look at a situation they can't resolve. Usually they employ management consultants but fans on football forums might have a magic answer
Right. Fans whose only information is "I saw him get injured" and "I read that it's an ACL injury" have the context that some employed to advise/help the club would...
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Wanyama had an issue. But Dier had appendicitis and Dembele just got old, so it wasn't really an injury crisis.
tommysvr
Pat van den Hauwe
In the past that might have been the extent of the issue. These days, you see physios being abused as they're treating a player on the pitch mid-game. Give me boring over that flimflam any fudging day of the week.
robp135
Ilie Dumitrescu
Kane was out for the back end of the season. Danny Rose didnt play most of that year.
There is no proof that the pitch is responsible, just guess work. We use the same type of surface, GrassMaster, as multiple other teams across the world, including other sports.
Xavi has barely played on the pitch, it's a huge stretch to claim that wear and tear from it caused his injury. Throw in the fact as well that it occurred away from home. Poor technique and incorrect footwear are much more likely contributors.
Robspur12
Johnny Morrison
Several posters called it as an ACL injury before it was confirmed (not me, I don't have a clue). There may well be physios, medics or simply people on here who have suffered a similar injury themselves and recognised the signs. Dismissing a valid view can be as damaging as accepting a false one.
tommysvr
Pat van den Hauwe
That’s not what I’m complaining about. Taking a stab in the dark about the type of injury is nothing more than a guess. What I’m talking about is the incessant blame and witch hunting that goes on. Like I said, for 18 months it was Ange’s fault. He left and the injuries continued so people are searching for whoever’s next: the physios, doctors, the pitch etc.
There is a direct link between that and the abuse the physios got whilst treating Xavi at Wolves.
Robspur12
Johnny Morrison
The injury situation under Ange was unprecedented, it wasn't unreasonable at the time for people to suggest, based on the intensity of his style and commentary from people who had worked with Ange, that he would have contributed to it. You cannot not discuss something because it might hurt someone's feelings. It now appears that the injury situation is still happening when he is no longer here, that there is more to it than just Ange. So it is unreasonable to keep making that claim unless new evidence comes to light.
Idiots will always do that, they racially abused Kevin Danso last week. People screaming abuse shouldn't preclude l sensible discussion of a topic by other people, some of whom are well informed on sports injuries. And having a go at them may put people off stating very valid views.
tommysvr
Pat van den Hauwe
You could be a physio or sports medicine expert with 30 years of experience. That doesn’t mean you can look at one clip of an injury and decide who’s at fault. that’s insane.
Why does literally every single thing have to be acceptable as a point of discussion? Would you say the same if it was something private about a player? Is it “boring” to say that’s not worthy of discussion?
On the Ange thing…absolutely fudging laughable that you’d suggest people were only saying ‘he might have contributed’. Go back and read the threads. The receipts are there mate.
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