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[MartyFunkhouser]

Becusse you use search engines that get funded by Big Pharma and they control what you see. If you ask for actual VAERS data and keep pushing eventually it gets you there.

Just for clarification.......

 

[robp135]

I did and its conspiracy theory gibberish

Two people have died with measles during the worst outbreak of measles in many years.

Its not anyones fault on here that you dont believe in science or facts and choose to follow the advise of a nut job like RFK

We had this conversation before and you posted loes about MMR related deaths that didnt exist and blamed UK browsers for not showing "the facts"

Clever use.

Pennsylvania announced two “measles-associated deaths.” Within hours, a prebuilt political influence apparatus was directing the blame towards RFK, Trump and Anti Vaccine groups. A public health event was converted into a political weapon by the media. Why?

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

. A public health event was converted into a political weapon by the media. Why?

Anti Vax, leading to lack of Vax take up, leading to more cases, leading to deaths

Surely thats not hard to work out now

 

[robp135]

Anti Vax, leading to lack of Vax take up, leading to more cases, leading to deaths

Surely thats not hard to work out now

If the case were that compelling they wouldn’t need to lie.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

If the case were that compelling they wouldn’t need to lie.

Where is the lie???

 

[robp135]

Where is the lie???

The Governor declares that there were 2 “measles-associated” deaths and the only information provided is that they are unvaccinated. Nothing else.

If you want to give him the benefit of the doubt it was deliberatly misleading. And the story runs as 2 measles deaths on PA. Which there were not.



But here we are in a situation where questioning your government’s statements about a measles case is an anti science conspiracy theories. When the reality is it’s perfectly fair to ask

How old were the 2 people that died?

Was measles the primary cause of death or a contributing condition?

Did they have a serious underlying medical conditions or compromised immune systems?

How long they were hospitalized if at all?

How did the state verify their vaccination histories?

The reason for non vaccination. Age, religious, medical etc?

Were the two cases were connected?

You don’t want conspiracy theories but you also don’t want transparency. Figure it out.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

You don’t want conspiracy theories but you also don’t want transparency. Figure it out.

Because I trust the health department when it says what happens? I don't deep dive into peoples health records for any other deaths so why should I not trust them on them saying that two people who were unvaccinated died from measles, when there is a confirmed spike in cases?

You sound like a chem trail flat earther

 

[robp135]

Because I trust the health department when it says what happens? I don't deep dive into peoples health records for any other deaths so why should I not trust them on them saying that two people who were unvaccinated died from measles, when there is a confirmed spike in cases?

You sound like a chem trail flat earther

Nobody in PA died from measles.

A baby who died shortly after birth of a lacerated spleen also tested positive for measles. They were unvaccinated because they were not even a day old. Measles does not cause an infants spleen to rupture.

The coroners office has no record of who the 2nd person is and governors office and health officials are refusing to answer questions about it. But yeh let’s just go with their story.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Nobody in PA died from measles.

A baby who died shortly after birth of a lacerated spleen also tested positive for measles. They were unvaccinated because they were not even a day old. Measles does not cause an infants spleen to rupture.

The coroners office has no record of who the 2nd person is and governors office and health officials are refusing to answer questions about it. But yeh let’s just go with their story.

Yeh or believe this nut job



Less scrutiny on him and his more than contrary POV on things ey?

 

[robp135]

Yeh or believe this nut job

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Less scrutiny on him and his more than contrary POV on things ey?

Have two people died from measles this week in Pennsylvania?

 

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[LutonSpurs]

2 people died with Measles, a disease which was eradicated in the US in the 90s. This is a problem you nip in the bud. But the tinpot bellends want to fight over whether it was measles that killed them or they just had measles. That is not even the point. They had measles. That is the point.

 

[robp135]

2 people died with Measles, a disease which was eradicated in the US in the 90s. This is a problem you nip in the bud. But the tinpot bellends want to fight over whether it was measles that killed them or they just had measles. That is not even the point. They had measles. That is the point.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

2 people died with Measles, a disease which was eradicated in the US in the 90s. This is a problem you nip in the bud. But the tinpot bellends want to fight over whether it was measles that killed them or they just had measles. That is not even the point. They had measles. That is the point.

The fact that the lies RFK has peddled comes under less scrutiny than anything else tells you that these people can not be taken seriously

 

[Rorschach]

2 people died with Measles, a disease which was eradicated in the US in the 90s. This is a problem you nip in the bud. But the tinpot bellends want to fight over whether it was measles that killed them or they just had measles. That is not even the point. They had measles. That is the point.

Hey it was Biden's fault anyway

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/26/pennsylvania-outbreak-kennedy-measles-vax-01050922

 

[Rorschach]

Hey it was Biden's fault anyway

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/26/pennsylvania-outbreak-kennedy-measles-vax-01050922

Wow they have actually changed the title on that article just right now

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Have two people died from measles this week in Pennsylvania?

With or from does not matter at this point though, in health terms you think a baby being born with measles is indicative of a health system thats going forward or backwards?

The fact that a highly dangerous and infectious disease is on the rise having once being eradicated should be of concern, I find is astonishing that to you its not a concern

 

[johnaliola]

Would be a genuinely amazing policy.

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we used to have indexation here when people were allowed to build wealth.

 

[robp135]

With or from does not matter at this point though, in health terms you think a baby being born with measles is indicative of a health system thats going forward or backwards?

The fact that a highly dangerous and infectious disease is on the rise having once being eradicated should be of concern, I find is astonishing that to you its not a concern

If that’s the conversation that you want to have that’s fair enough. But two people have not died from Measels which is what’s been reported.

We have no information about the second case. We have information that one child has died due to a spleen rupture with measles antibodies in their system. We have no knowledge of the level of antibodies, or whether or not the mother was vaccinated, had measles previously or was carrying an active strain of the measles virus.

Why is that important? Because a vaccinated person will more often than not have have measles antibodies. As would someone that’s had measles. The biological mother, in both cases, will typically pass those antibodies on to the child.

It may turn out that the mother did have measles. But that still would not have been the cause of death as reported.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/questions.html
Measles antibodies induced by vaccination, typically via the MMR vaccine, generally persist for many years, often decades.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9665966/
After one dose of measles-containing vaccine, typically around 12 months of age or later, roughly 93–96% of recipients develop detectable measles antibodies seroconvert. A second dose brings this close to 97–99% or higher in most studies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7136470/
Maternal IgG antibodies cross the placenta, with transfer efficiency increasing in the later stages of pregnancy, especially the third trimester. At birth, the infant’s antibody levels in cord blood are typically comparable to or sometimes higher than the mother’s levels.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

If that’s the conversation that you want to have that’s fair enough. But two people have not died from Measels which is what’s been reported.

We have no information about the second case. We have information that one child has died due to a spleen rupture with measles antibodies in their system. We have no knowledge of the level of antibodies, or whether or not the mother was vaccinated, had measles previously or was carrying an active strain of the measles virus.

Why is that important? Because a vaccinated person will more often than not have have measles antibodies. As would someone that’s had measles. The biological mother, in both cases, will typically pass those antibodies on to the child.

It may turn out that the mother did have measles. But that still would not have been the cause of death as reported.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/questions.html
Measles antibodies induced by vaccination, typically via the MMR vaccine, generally persist for many years, often decades.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9665966/
After one dose of measles-containing vaccine, typically around 12 months of age or later, roughly 93–96% of recipients develop detectable measles antibodies seroconvert. A second dose brings this close to 97–99% or higher in most studies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7136470/
Maternal IgG antibodies cross the placenta, with transfer efficiency increasing in the later stages of pregnancy, especially the third trimester. At birth, the infant’s antibody levels in cord blood are typically comparable to or sometimes higher than the mother’s levels.

But the outbreak of measles would have likely (more than likely) contributed to the baby having it, if thats not a concern for you then frankly it beggars belief TBH