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Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

Legohamster said:
I am going to be the killjoy here.

3 wins against Wolves/unmotivated Villa/on the beach Everton

We cant and I am sure RDZ will be pay zero attention to the results in the past few weeks other that it did the job needed
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It's not even that, football doesn't work like that - We got x amount of points in this timeframe therefore we will get x points in a season. It just doesn't work like that, as West Ham have seen form doesn't go on the same forever.

I remember when Conte took over when we were struggling, ended up getting us top 4. The predictions for next season was full of was we was going to be 2nd or 3rd and maybe challenging for the title because we was just going to continue as we had began under Conte - needless to say, we flopped....
 
harr1984 said:
It's not even that, football doesn't work like that - We got x amount of points in this timeframe therefore we will get x points in a season. It just doesn't work like that, as West Ham have seen form doesn't go on the same forever.

I remember when Conte took over when we were struggling, ended up getting us top 4. The predictions for next season was full of was we was going to be 2nd or 3rd and maybe challenging for the title because we was just going to continue as we had began under Conte - needless to say, we flopped....
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You can find examples where it started well, and didn't continue, and you can find examples of when it did continue. Neither prove anything, we will have to wait and see.
IMO, De Zerbi 'feels' right, after experiencing his initial few games. Don't think I've felt like that since Jol, Harry and Poch.
 
Lemonade Money said:
You can find examples where it started well, and didn't continue, and you can find examples of when it did continue. Neither prove anything, we will have to wait and see.
IMO, De Zerbi 'feels' right, after experiencing his initial few games. Don't think I've felt like that since Jol, Harry and Poch.
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Exactly, saying look how many points we would have got over a season doesn't prove anything :D

I agree, RDZ is a better fit for the players we have and way we want to play but also personality wise - he has that bite, can be a bit of a **** at times but we need that to stick up for our club. For all the stick the board are rightly getting, I do think they will back him and assuming they do it should be a decent season with not European football....
 
As I said a few weeks ago - the thing about him, is that he understands what it means to coach Tottenham Hotspur in 2026.

You can't just be a coach, in a supportive environment, at a club out of the media glare, where all the moving parts work without you. None of that applies at Spurs - a big, rich, chaotic club constantly trapped in our own heads, in the full glare of the media and in need of a saviour.

To coach Spurs, you have to be a bit of a nutcase messiah. Someone who makes everyone - players, fans, staff, board - believe in him and what he wants to do. You have to believe, even when no one else does. Because everyone in the hierarchy of an organization that employs hundreds, looks to you to give them permission to believe, too.

I said when we had Poch (iirc) that we're a club with daddy issues. Sounds ridiculous given we're a billion-pound enterprise, but it's true. We need a father figure to make us believe. Poch was the closest we ever came.

De Zerbi, despite his personal flaws, has that quality in spades. Watching him demand that the reporter who talked us down be dragged back into the press room to attend his post-match epitomized that, as did him going over each player who contributed to staying up, outlining how they stood up and were counted.

Watching him soak in the love from the South Stand at the end of the game felt like that moment Poch was looking around the Lane at its final game, beaming with pride. Same look on their faces.

I'll probably never personally warm to the guy. But in a season of terrible decisions, he may have been the only good one.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I reckon he'll walk in a few weeks when Vinai and Lange present him 'next season'
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Certainly a possibility. Man didn't even wait a day to start squad planning - iirc he said he'd take 2 hours post-game and then start working on next season.

Maddison mentioned de Zerbi usually stays at the training ground hotel planning things out with his staff past 9 PM, so I don't doubt that that's just what he did y'day.

Imagine having that insane level of dedication to prepping for the season, and then going to Dumb and Dumber and being told they're buying some Swedish teenager instead. Wouldn't blame him for inflicting GBH tbh.
 
Legohamster said:
I am going to be the killjoy here.

3 wins against Wolves/unmotivated Villa/on the beach Everton

We cant and I am sure RDZ will be pay zero attention to the results in the past few weeks other that it did the job needed
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Everton were not on the beach, their running stats and tackling prove that.
They just weren't very good.
Like the villa game, were we played with a similar tempo, it's difficult to tell if they were bad or only as good as we allowed them to be.
 
DeanoAustin said:
On paper, is the record that impressive if you take it at face value? Maybe not.

Throw in the circumstances and it bloody is. No wins in 4 months. No win at home in 5 months. We'd dropped into the relegation zone before we played under him where many commentators said we wouldn't cope or have the bottle to get out. Unprecedented injury crisis. Leaking 2+ goals a game for 10 of 11 games before he came in. Losing his captain, his main striker and his most creative player early on. A nation willing us down...

He's done an absolutely incredible job. We had to win games with as bad an attack as I can remember at Spurs since 1993/94 when Sheringham got injured.

I wasn't sold on him but I am now. As well as putting millions in the bank for staying up, he's put a hell of a lot of credit in there too.

I truly believe there aren't many managers who would have kept us up. In doing so, this fella has written himself into our history in a way that means he'll be forever remembered fondly regardless of what happens from here.
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I can think of only Mourinho, love him or hate him, off the top of my head that could have played that many successive cup finals at the tail end and come up trumps. Credit to RDZ for implementing the system, finding out what works with the players at hand, and creating a real vibe with the fans in such little time.

Other managers excuses would be that it takes time to implement their systems etc.

He thought on his feet and got the fudging job done with immense pressure. I think this will propel us if the board want to.
 
glasgowspur said:
Everton were not on the beach, their running stats and tackling prove that.
They just weren't very good.
Like the villa game, were we played with a similar tempo, it's difficult to tell if they were bad or only as good as we allowed them to be.
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Maybe a bit of both. It’s not Sky where it’s got to be one thing or another when it suites them. They were so so cringe yesterday trying to drum up situations and doomsday scenarios even when we were winning they didn’t acknowledge it.

Get those fire sticks boys! There is a reason why I watch the games in the pub when I can’t get down to the lane.
 
harr1984 said:
It's not even that, football doesn't work like that - We got x amount of points in this timeframe therefore we will get x points in a season. It just doesn't work like that, as West Ham have seen form doesn't go on the same forever.

I remember when Conte took over when we were struggling, ended up getting us top 4. The predictions for next season was full of was we was going to be 2nd or 3rd and maybe challenging for the title because we was just going to continue as we had began under Conte - needless to say, we flopped....
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Just like the fools who predict our results of our next 3/4 matches, anything can happen in a game. The uncertainty of results makes the game interesting.
 
Gazza said:
I can think of only Mourinho, love him or hate him, off the top of my head that could have played that many successive cup finals at the tail end and come up trumps. Credit to RDZ for implementing the system, finding out what works with the players at hand, and creating a real vibe with the fans in such little time.

Other managers excuses would be that it takes time to implement their systems etc.

He thought on his feet and got the fudging job done with immense pressure. I think this will propel us if the board want to.
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What I found most impressive about RDZ was that when he came in, people said he would need weeks or months to get his message across and we didn't have that time or the players. And we didn't and we don't.

He changed the style albeit it wasn't his preferred approach. That's still to come. What was most impressive was how he managed the situation, how he protected the players, how he built them up, how he talked about us as a club and how he applied pressure to the players at just the right time. His was a masterclass in emotional intelligence, genuine leadership and brilliant PR in incredibly difficult circumstances.

I hope much will be written about this season as we try to understand it better with the clarity of some distance. De Zerbi's management will be one of the aspects most worth dissecting.
 
DeanoAustin said:
What I found most impressive about RDZ was that when he came in, people said he would need weeks or months to get his message across and we didn't have that time or the players. And we didn't and we don't.

He changed the style albeit it wasn't his preferred approach. That's still to come. What was most impressive was how he managed the situation, how he protected the players, how he built them up, how he talked about us as a club and how he applied pressure to the players at just the right time. His was a masterclass in emotional intelligence, genuine leadership and brilliant PR in incredibly difficult circumstances.

I hope much will be written about this season as we try to understand it better with the clarity of some distance. De Zerbi's management will be one of the aspects most worth dissecting.
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It gives him a real reason to go to the board with his rooster and ball sack out and tell them how he wants them to perform.
 
DeanoAustin said:
What I found most impressive about RDZ was that when he came in, people said he would need weeks or months to get his message across and we didn't have that time or the players. And we didn't and we don't.

He changed the style albeit it wasn't his preferred approach. That's still to come. What was most impressive was how he managed the situation, how he protected the players, how he built them up, how he talked about us as a club and how he applied pressure to the players at just the right time. His was a masterclass in emotional intelligence, genuine leadership and brilliant PR in incredibly difficult circumstances.

I hope much will be written about this season as we try to understand it better with the clarity of some distance. De Zerbi's management will be one of the aspects most worth dissecting.
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He changed his style a lot to get us over the line. There's no way players as untechnical as Gallagher or Pahlinha fit into his style of play long term, but he made use of their tenacity.
 
Gutter Boy said:
He changed his style a lot to get us over the line. There's no way players as untechnical as Gallagher or Pahlinha fit into his style of play long term, but he made use of their tenacity.
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I think he'll surprise you with both of them mate.

Gallagher is, fundamentally, a pressing machine. First touch of a concrete wall, but he has about twenty sets of lungs and keeps the team pressing super-high. Everything about de Zerbi's tactics indicates this is what he wants from his side. I suspect we'll see Gallagher a lot more than most think.

With Palhinha, yes he won't play much (at least I hope so). But de Zerbi loves his mentality, and given how much of a Poch-esque 'emotions' man he is, I think that gets him over the line to be our stopgap when we need to hold a lead, etc.
 
What we cant do is have a summer lul. This squads real rank bad still, no doubt about it and there were still moments with RDZ where silly errors and moments nearly derailed his efforts.
 
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