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Thomas Frank - Head Coach

MartyFunkhouser said:
You are taking about less than 5% of sporting success of all success in sport..............

They shouldn't have given up because that was their journey, but its certainly not the formula for long term success in any sport. Its also as much about others being off their game than it is anything else, thats why Mike Tyson went on to win another World Title and Leicester were since stinking up the joint in the Championship

If you want a new Tottenham built as I do, with a more sustained spell of success than the odd pot, up there year in year out with a team that reflects the balance sheet, then you are going to have to back the manager that comes in next for longer than 6 months otherwise you yourself will be in a constant state of flux and frustration, despite what any titans of industry manual tell you about life and sport. Thats not a defence of Frank BTW, thats a reality of Spurs as a club in which the data of the last 30 years falls in my favour when knowing how big a job is in the hands of whoever the manager is, Frank or otherwise

You need underdogs and filler to fill sport, nothing says they can't have their day, but if this clubs going to have more than "just its day" then some of our fans need more stomach than the constant idea of instamix success that some seem to believe exists
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For me.

First of all a solution to the DoF question. Is Lange the one to be trusted without Paratici? Someone else alongside him? A better team around him? Or someone in above or instead of him?

From there figure out an overall plan for how we want to play. Not just now, but for at least 5 years going forward. Not the details, but an overall approach. That would then allow us to recruit and develop players for a balanced squad that can serve the current/next head coach and the one after that.

From there get or keep a head coach whose previous work aligns with that overall strategy, someone that's done well playing a brand of that overall approach. Obviously also someone who can work with the squad already here. Ability to work with and develop young players is a must. From there ferry whoever is the highest rated of those fitting those parameters.

From there you can back the manager/head coach and give them time.

Shoet term though we may reach a point where a short term change is needed.
 
braineclipse said:
For me.

First of all a solution to the DoF question. Is Lange the one to be trusted without Paratici? Someone else alongside him? A better team around him? Or someone in above or instead of him?
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TBH, who knows, but TBH again, I don't see the obsession that Fab was anything more than another chancer in the world of DOFs.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
TBH, who knows, but TBH again, I don't see the obsession that Fab was anything more than another chancer in the world of DOFs.
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Not obsessed with Paratici at all. More that I have doubts about Lange doing that job on his own.

We need the people who should be in charge of these decisions in place first to make the decisions they need to make.

After that giving the head coach time becomes a thing we can or can't do. Until then we're swimming upstream in the dark in a somehow shark infested river (sharks don't usually live in rivers do they?)
 
Watching Utd against the Goons it occurred to me that at 1:2 when Carrick made an attacking change Frank would have taken off an attacking to bring a defender, probably Danso.
 
afsoc4life said:
The squad is not so bad to be this low in the league even with the injuries in creative midfield. Look at what Carrick has done to Utd.
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Weren’t they already 6th when he took over? And didn’t they spend over £100 million in the summer on PL-ready attacking talent?

MartyFunkhouser said:
Yeh this mentality will help us no end

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Some of our fanbase. Honestly.
 
afsoc4life said:
The squad is not so bad to be this low in the league even with the injuries in creative midfield. Look at what Carrick has done to Utd.
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But Carrick gets Man Utd. He knows how they want to play, and he backs himself to get them to play. Might be a new manager bounce
 
Bullet said:
Cunha £63m
Mebumo £71m
Sesko £74m
If all add-ons are met
That is £208m

Note we had just grabbed CL qualification off MNU, so we got about £100m in that one game and Utd didn't, but they spent £200m anyway!
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I really thought that winning the Europa League would be a turning point. I thought that we were no longer going to be a memes club, that we would buy well and onwards and upwards from there.

Instead, it has done very little for us. Whereas United have stepped right up. This sliding door moment slid into our faces and left us stranded back on the derelict platform as we watch everyone else pass right on by.

I remember the excitement when we looked to be signing both Kudus and MGW in a 48 hour period. We only signed Kudus and genuinely that feels like the moment that everything started turning against us.
 
El Dante said:
I really thought that winning the Europa League would be a turning point. I thought that we were no longer going to be a memes club, that we would buy well and onwards and upwards from there.

Instead, it has done very little for us. Whereas United have stepped right up. This sliding door moment slid into our faces and left us stranded back on the derelict platform as we watch everyone else pass right on by.

I remember the excitement when we looked to be signing both Kudus and MGW in a 48 hour period. We only signed Kudus and genuinely that feels like the moment that everything started turning against us.
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We were soo bad in the league last season that unfortunately it was never going to be more than a great win but for the moment. I look at the firepower Utd have this season and I’m jealous tbh. Proven PL quality. We only really have Solanke. Hope we are looking to bring in a striker before the end of the January.
 
parj said:
But Carrick gets Man Utd. He knows how they want to play, and he backs himself to get them to play. Might be a new manager bounce
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He knows a top club, the pressure and expectations, and he knows the players probably didn't like playing with handbrake on and out of position (first thing, move Bruno up and bring in Mainoo behind, every idiot in England could see it, yet somehow not Amorim), any of that sound familiar?

And the new manager bounce in two games they would have expected to lose makes a huge difference.

Imagine if we had brough Carrick in on Jan 1, and he managed to get 9 points instead of 3 from Brentford, Bournemouth, Sunderland, West Ham, Burnley, we would be 7th/8th with all concerns for relegation gone, good feeling around the club and 3 points off a CL place?

But our club just stared at the train wreck and are continuing to do so .. we won't get the chance at those points back, and for what a manager that has lost the fans (there is no real way back from the away fans signing they want you gone), I can't imagine the players are loving it, and every game the bar gets lowered, we are looking for crumbs instead of performances and results.
 
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