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A state-funded video game is warning teenagers that they risk being referred to counter-terrorism programme Prevent if they question mass migration, with even researching immigration statistics online portrayed negatively.

More sickening far left damaging propaganda that will be defended by the extremists on here. We are literally living under a regime that is manipulating everything they can.

The Telegraph has the story.

Pathways is an interactive game designed for 11 to 18 year-old pupils and funded by Prevent, a Home Office programme for tackling extremism.

Young players are directed to help their in-game characters – a white teenage boy and girl – to avoid being reported for “extreme Right-wing ideology” after discussing migration online.

Characters can face extremism referrals if they choose to engage with groups that spread “harmful ideological messages”, or join protests against the “erosion of British values”. Even researching online immigration statistics is portrayed negatively.

Other in-game pitfalls include sharing a video that claims Muslim men, rather than homeless veterans, are being given emergency accommodation.

An in-game meter monitors how extreme the character’s behaviour is. Those who “lose” may be given counselling to deal with “ideological thoughts” or referred to an anti-terrorism expert.

The game was developed with Government backing by councils in East Yorkshire over growing concerns about immigration and tensions about migrant accommodation in their communities.

School pupils asked to play Pathways must first choose their character, either a boy or girl named Charlie, who has recently joined college after leaving school.

Charlie – described throughout the game using the pronoun “they”, regardless of the gender chosen – is faced with a number of choices, and players make decisions based on multiple-choice questions. These are marked red for bad and green for good.

The first is whether or not to download a video shared on a gaming platform: players are asked to choose between telling an adult; discussing the video to find out more, or sharing it.

Then Charlie, who is outperformed by a black student at college, must decide whether or not to accept his misfortune or blame immigrants for “stealing jobs”.

After this, Charlie comes across a video that claims “Muslim men are stealing the places of British veterans in emergency accommodation” and “the Government is betraying white British people and we need to take back control of our country”.
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Danishfurniturelover said:
A state-funded video game is warning teenagers that they risk being referred to counter-terrorism programme Prevent if they question mass migration, with even researching immigration statistics online portrayed negatively.

More sickening far left damaging propaganda that will be defended by the extremists on here. We are literally living under a regime that is manipulating everything they can.

The Telegraph has the story.
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Are children being forced to join this game. Can the children leave the game at anytime. Can parents intervene & stop children playing the game if they think it's inappropriate. If the answer is yes it's a mountain out of a molehill. Yes I know I am a brainwashed lefty even though I don't vote that way.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
A state-funded video game is warning teenagers that they risk being referred to counter-terrorism programme Prevent if they question mass migration, with even researching immigration statistics online portrayed negatively.

More sickening far left damaging propaganda that will be defended by the extremists on here. We are literally living under a regime that is manipulating everything they can.

The Telegraph has the story.
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If it’s in The Telegraph then we can definitely rest assured it’s entirely true and free from any bias.
 
kb 1984 said:
Are children being forced to join this game. Can the children leave the game at anytime. Can parents intervene & stop children playing the game if they think it's inappropriate. If the answer is yes it's a mountain out of a molehill. Yes I know I am a brainwashed lefty even though I don't vote that way.
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You don't think it's concerning that it's state funded? And that it's pushing one particular ideology?

That kind of flimflam is straight out of the Soviet Communist playbook.
 
kb 1984 said:
Are children being forced to join this game. Can the children leave the game at anytime. Can parents intervene & stop children playing the game if they think it's inappropriate. If the answer is yes it's a mountain out of a molehill. Yes I know I am a brainwashed lefty even though I don't vote that way.
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For research purposes I have just gone through it, took about 10 mins, TBH its fairly ridiculous in tone BUT there are some farily decent lessons in there for kids about online bullying, how to react to new social norms etc. Not a fan of it in its entirety and no you don't have to do it and you can leave it (its also a product of 3 councils from what I can see so not rolled out everywhere.

I did laugh though, there was a section about seeing factually incorrect info online and clicking through to find links to groups and more misinformation and right wing propaganda, I reckon Danish would have struggled on the multiple choice on that page.

In all seriousness it just seems a tool that does what good honest parents should be doing for their kids and how parents should be more approachable on subjects that it mentions. As I say, I am not a fan of it but can probably see why they think its needed to some extent, but some it it crosses a line for me
 
scaramanga said:
You don't think it's concerning that it's state funded? And that it's pushing one particular ideology?

That kind of flimflam is straight out of the Soviet Communist playbook.
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Not particularly if it was part of the school curriculum or children's organisations were sending kids towards it I would have concerns. Currently it's up to kids to join as a responsible parent I wouldn't let my kids join until I have checked it out. 3 councils out of what 300 doesn't sound very Soviet communist playbook to me Have the Labor Government come out & endorsed this.

Just to clarify I think stuff related to fascism & neo Nazis should be taught in schools not on websites. Both my kids learnt about fascism during WWII History classes & visiting the Sydney Jewish museum far more impactful than a website. If that doesn't steer you clear of fascism nothing will
 
kb 1984 said:
Just to clarify I think stuff related to fascism & neo Nazis should be taught in schools not on websites. Both my kids learnt about fascism during WWII History classes & visiting the Sydney Jewish museum far more impactful than a website. If that doesn't steer you clear of fascism nothing will
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Amazing lessons to be learnt from history, great to do that stuff with your kids and inform their future choices.
 
thfcsteff said:
I believe we are arriving at the same conclusion via different vehicles. I am saying we have long, long lost the common sense measure as to what is offensive and what isn’t. Frankly, I think we’d agree on how compromised humour has become in the face of such imbalance. As for ‘legality’ of a statement, I’m not even there. I’m talking about the issue of decency, and knowing when something is appropriate and when it isn’t. Sadly, so many things which IMO are perfectly fine end up being deemed ‘inappropriate’ by score-keeping agenda merchants. It’s why we have some people claiming that Fawlty Towers is ‘racist’ or whatever. And honestly, for me, it fudges everything up because the things which are genuinely offensive get lumped in with this sort of nonsense.
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President Obama’s comments about woke culture seem prescient as ever…

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Trixster said:
I don't want agents to be in the wrong, this has nothing to do with some hopeful agenda. This is about trained personnel acting as such.

He is, or at least hopefully is, firearms trained. He is also trained, again hopefully, to assess situations and how to control himself in said situations.

He has exercised no restraint at all, simply just gone for the gun the second the wheels started to move. He had enough time, imo, to move and handle the situation differently.

If he was being driven at from 100yds away at high speed then yes, I would expect shots to be fired - and sure as brick he would not stand in the way of the vehicle but seek cover to fire from. She has started to move from a standing position, on fairly poor road condition, from about 5-10ft - that is not being driven at in any manner of speed.

Do you remember the two British lads (Army) dragged from their car in Ireland by a baying mob who thought they were loyalists?
Those lads were armed, those lads were trained, and they were certainly in dire peril - they didn't shoot anyone, they did discharge their guns into the air in a vain attempt to get out of the situation.

That is control/restraint.
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Can only imagine how those untrained ICE mall cops would react in such a perilous situation, with their automatic weapons we’d be talking about dozens of dead bodies.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC News - BBC Nine O'Clock News, 19/03/1988, Funeral crowd attacks corporals

The crowd at an IRA funeral attacks two Army corporals whose car drove into the cortege.
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SteveAWOL said:
Can only imagine how those untrained ICE mall cops would react in such a perilous situation, with their automatic weapons we’d be talking about dozens of dead bodies.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC News - BBC Nine O'Clock News, 19/03/1988, Funeral crowd attacks corporals

The crowd at an IRA funeral attacks two Army corporals whose car drove into the cortege.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Given they ended up being killed in hindsight not using their weapons let themselves and their own families down. And they'd have been 100% justified in using them.
 
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