Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[johnola]

It's the lowest of hanging fruit to help the economy.

It's more than just common sense, we absolutely have to do it.

Needs a plebiscite or the country burns. Make a proper case for it this time instead of just threats and insults.

He can’t just decide to join some thing that massively impacts us just because there are votes in it for him - we know it will get turned over at the next election when the brexit parties storm back.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

It's the lowest of hanging fruit to help the economy.

It's more than just common sense, we absolutely have to do it.

It wouldn't actually necessarily help the economy, particularly as things have moved on since Brexit.

Obviously joining the customs union means you give up your own independent trade policy, so the UK would have to unwind its trade deals with the US, India and leave the CPTPP.

The trade agreement with the EU pretty means zero tariffs so the drawback of not being in the customs union when trading with the EU is pretty much admin/time cost, but systems can be put in place to minimise that.

By contrast, joining the customs union would mean immediately adding 5% additional tariffs on trade with the US, our biggest trading partner, accounting for £302 billion of annual aggregated trade flows (c. 18% of all of our trade).

From a trading perspective the UK always had one of the least to lose of any European country from not being in the customs union as less than half of our annual trade flows are with EU member states (c. £930 billion non-EU flows versus c. £807 billion EU flows).

Overall there isn't a clear view that joining the customs union would be beneficial, particularly to the extent it would need to be to counteract the harm you'd inflict on trading relations with the US.

 

[johnola]

And where do we draw the line with European integration?

Why are the lefties here so sure that the EU itself with manifest power over the UKs population and resources doesn’t itself lurch to the right and not in the knee jerk response to unchecked migration here in the U.K. but in the disappearing of millions of people way of several recent large member countries of the EU?

would all that be worth it so the rich Urbanites can spend their winters in their spanish villa’s untroubled by a half hour queue at passport control?

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Came in here after several months away and you're all obsessed with Tommy Robinson still! Deny a fire oxygen and it'll go out!

You could literally say that about anything on here that we are all guilty of parroting on about, just because you are a fan doesn't make it an "obsession" to highlight one of the biggest grifting cnuts of the UK scene.

Given the number of you simpletons that donate to his lifestyle I am not sure a few comments on a hidden football forum or less of them is going to change anything

Still crossing the road when you see mean looking men you don't recognise as British???

 

[LutonSpurs]

And where do we draw the line with European integration?

Why are the lefties here so sure that the EU itself with manifest power over the UKs population and resources doesn’t itself lurch to the right and not in the knee jerk response to unchecked migration here in the U.K. but in the disappearing of millions of people way of several recent large member countries of the EU?

would all that be worth it so the rich Urbanites can spend their winters in their spanish villa’s untroubled by a half hour queue at passport control?

The problem here is the EU don't have power over us and never have had. For all its flaws and ours we were stronger together. End of.

 

[scaramanga]

The problem here is the EU don't have power over us and never have had. For all its flaws and ours we were stronger together. End of.

Yet nobody has been able to point to any measurable proof of that.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

You could literally say that about anything on here that we are all guilty of parroting on about, just because you are a fan doesn't make it an "obsession" to highlight one of the biggest grifting cnuts of the UK scene.

Given the number of you simpletons that donate to his lifestyle I am not sure a few comments on a hidden football forum or less of them is going to change anything

Still crossing the road when you see mean looking men you don't recognise as British???

Didn't realise i was a fan of tommy robinson. News to me.

 

[johnola]

The problem here is the EU don't have power over us and never have had. For all its flaws and ours we were stronger together. End of.

Stronger for what, to fudge everyone else over?