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scaramanga said:
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There's nothing wrong with tarring all Muslims with the same brush. They weren't born that way, they all made the same bad life choices. There are few better ways to tar a group with one brush than to analyse their life choices.
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Dude. I said where I have said criticism of Islam is racism. Not whether Islamophobia is racism. We had this argument and you stumbled when I asked you if anti semitism is racism (which it is) and you couldn't substantiate your outright hypocritical stance. We can do it again if you want.
 
Gazza said:
@LutonSpurs

Any Joy in condemning stoning people and chopping hands off or flogging people off buildings in any civilisation and condemning Sharia laws a stupid backwards way of life in a yes or no answer? And that sharia has no place anywhere?

I know you said you were not religious so surely it’s really easy to say yes that it’s bat brick crazy.

I know that you have called out posters for not answering directly and running away so I know that you are not that man.

I promise I won’t call you a racist
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Lol.
 
Its not about rewarding Hamas. In fact, it is precisely the opposite. The heinious actions of Hamas simply show why this conflict needs to end. We have run out of road. We need a two state solution supported by the international community where Israelis and Palestinians can live peaceful and prosperous lives next to each other.
 
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LutonSpurs said:
Lol.
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Coward. Snake in grass, lecturing others about how Tommy Robinson is far right, plank.

Anyone who considers sharia as anything but extreme right and deplorable cannot be on the side of democracy.

So Tommy Robinson may be the biggest idiot in the UK, but it’s people like you who cry for equality and rights, but only when you want/ need them.

So don’t take any moral high ground and get into any debate as you have accused others from swerving out running away from facts. Your silence and stupidity is loud and clear. I’m not shocked or surprised by it. 100% Typical.

Like I said I don’t hate Muslims, but Islam does compel even the most moderate to believe in sharia as gods word, so they cannot speak against it. Homosexuality it punishable by death etc. so how can it have a place in democracy in any form? All of this rubbish about human rights and equality only is in demand when in the minority.
 
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Gazza said:
Coward. Snake in grass, lecturing others about how Tommy Robinson is far right, plank.

Anyone who considers sharia as anything but extreme right and deplorable cannot be on the side of democracy.

So Tommy Robinson may be the biggest idiot in the UK, but it’s people like you who cry for equality and rights, but only when you want/ need them.

So don’t take any moral high ground and get into any debate as you have accused others from swerving out running away from facts. Your silence and stupidity is loud and clear. I’m not shocked or surprised by it. 100% Typical.

Like I said I don’t hate Muslims, but Islam does compel even the most moderate to believe in sharia as gods word, so they cannot speak against it. Homosexuality it punishable by death etc. so how can it have a place in democracy in any form? All of this rubbish about human rights and equality only is in demand when in the minority.
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What?
 
LutonSpurs said:
Dude. I said where I have said criticism of Islam is racism. Not whether Islamophobia is racism. We had this argument and you stumbled when I asked you if anti semitism is racism (which it is) and you couldn't substantiate your outright hypocritical stance. We can do it again if you want.
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"and blame all of us. That's racism lad"

@Gazza is criticising Muslims for their belief. That's fine, nobody should have an issue with that. It's a life choice, just like wearing a mullet. I can assume certain things about all mullet wearers without it being racism, as should anyone else be able to.

Anti-Semitism is far more simple than you think. As you're well aware, Jews have been persecuted for centuries because of their heritage - far more so than because of any religious beliefs. That, obviously, is (and should be) a protected characteristic.

Had @Gazza been acting similarly and said something along the lines of "I don't like Arabs because some of them are clams" them I'd be criticising him at least as much as you. But he hasn't. He's grouped people who have all made a similarly bad, significant life choice.
 
scaramanga said:
"and blame all of us. That's racism lad"

@Gazza is criticising Muslims for their belief. That's fine, nobody should have an issue with that. It's a life choice, just like wearing a mullet. I can assume certain things about all mullet wearers without it being racism, as should anyone else be able to.

Anti-Semitism is far more simple than you think. As you're well aware, Jews have been persecuted for centuries because of their heritage - far more so than because of any religious beliefs. That, obviously, is (and should be) a protected characteristic.

Had @Gazza been acting similarly and said something along the lines of "I don't like Arabs because some of them are clams" them I'd be criticising him at least as much as you. But he hasn't. He's grouped people who have all made a similarly bad, significant life choice.
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With that life choice it comes with stoning homosexuality, adultry etc. and supporting with justification of sharia law and my point is why would anyone in their right frame of mind support that in a civil society.

The fact is he can cry racism and inequality in people like Tommy Robinson but cannot do the same against an indoctrination that he claims that he doesn’t really follow. It would be easy to just say, yes sharia is barbaric and not ok.
 
scaramanga said:
"and blame all of us. That's racism lad"

@Gazza is criticising Muslims for their belief. That's fine, nobody should have an issue with that. It's a life choice, just like wearing a mullet. I can assume certain things about all mullet wearers without it being racism, as should anyone else be able to.

Anti-Semitism is far more simple than you think. As you're well aware, Jews have been persecuted for centuries because of their heritage - far more so than because of any religious beliefs. That, obviously, is (and should be) a protected characteristic.

Had @Gazza been acting similarly and said something along the lines of "I don't like Arabs because some of them are clams" them I'd be criticising him at least as much as you. But he hasn't. He's grouped people who have all made a similarly bad, significant life choice.
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So anti semtiism it racism but Islamophobia isn't as you have found some made up, subjective measure to say Islamophobia isn't. Your position isn't rational.

And I won't talk about Gazza as he is arguing like someone with real anger issues. As much as I enjoy a debate the guy is not bright enough to hold a debate.

However he has been clear in his disdain for Pakistanis Muslims due to his experience as a child. That is racism
 
LutonSpurs said:
So anti semtiism it racism but Islamophobia isn't as you have found some made up, subjective measure to say Islamophobia isn't. Your position isn't rational.

And I won't talk about Gazza as he is arguing like someone with real anger issues. As much as I enjoy a debate the guy is not bright enough to hold a debate.

However he has been clear in his disdain for Pakistanis Muslims due to his experience as a child. That is racism
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lol for the last time I don’t hate Muslims or Pakistanis. I’ve got relatives from Pakistan that I love. You just like to read what you like.

You just don’t have an answer why sharia is barbarically terrible
 
LutonSpurs said:
So anti semtiism it racism but Islamophobia isn't as you have found some made up, subjective measure to say Islamophobia isn't. Your position isn't rational.

And I won't talk about Gazza as he is arguing like someone with real anger issues. As much as I enjoy a debate the guy is not bright enough to hold a debate.

However he has been clear in his disdain for Pakistanis Muslims due to his experience as a child. That is racism
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I don't think you're listening.
 
Gazza said:
lol for the last time I don’t hate Muslims or Pakistanis. I’ve got relatives from Pakistan that I love. You just like to read what you like.

You just don’t have an answer why sharia is barbarically terrible
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Go back and read your posts if you can take a break from angrily smashing your keyboard kiddo.
 
You could easily shut me up and say yes sharia law is just wrong. But you can’t/wont. Yet want to cry racism against anyone and everything.

Antisemitism is racist as Jews belong to one race of people from the 12 tribes of Judah. So it’s complex. If I said I have a dislike of Judaism it’s not racist. Do you understand that? Probably not.

Islam however has spread by peace obviously and incorporates many people from various races and not particular to one race of peoples.

Even your ancestors were probably Hindu/buddhist that got subjugated more than likely and surrendered to the Arab invaders of the sub continent. They could have happily accepted Islam but the likelihood is that wasn’t the case if you look at the terror documented by history.

Anyway you keep hiding and crying racism. I would actually respect you so much more if you could say sharia in no certain terms is homophobic, barbaric and has no place in any society. But I know you won’t. Want equality when in the minority but once in the majority there is no equality.

Peace be upon you
 
Gazza said:
You could easily shut me up and say yes sharia law is just wrong. But you can’t/wont. Yet want to cry racism against anyone and everything.

Antisemitism is racist as Jews belong to one race of people from the 12 tribes of Judah. So it’s complex. If I said I have a dislike of Judaism it’s not racist. Do you understand that? Probably not.

Islam however has spread by peace obviously and incorporates many people from various races and not particular to one race of peoples.

Even your ancestors were probably Hindu/buddhist that got subjugated more than likely and surrendered to the Arab invaders of the sub continent. They could have happily accepted Islam but the likelihood is that wasn’t the case if you look at the terror documented by history.

Anyway you keep hiding and crying racism. I would actually respect you so much more if you could say sharia in no certain terms is homophobic, barbaric and has no place in any society. But I know you won’t. Want equality when in the minority but once in the majority there is no equality.

Peace be upon you
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I don't want to shut you up. I think it's funny watching you melt down on here.
 
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Can the people from her culture come and condemn her so we can decide you are not extremists please.
 
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