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*** OMT Tottenham Hotspur v The Cottagers ***

DubaiSpur said:
We played once a week last season and Postecoglou used that as an excuse mate - saying we weren't playing enough which is why the players looked rusty and we were struggling all the time. Now two games a week is also apparently a problem for him.

Iraola is managing one game a week, better than Postecoglou did. Whether that extends to two games a week is of course TBD, but I think he has more promise of mastering it than our chap.
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Maybe
But you can’t say (and you haven’t), his come their CBS are okaying every week… without factoring in they have played once a week
Someone I think said look at a planter who played for them and never got injured.., and the stresses here of okay8 g more often in quick succession have injured him. That’s the delta and the thing you have to consider
I called Ariola as our next manager 15 months ago, on here. But it doesn’t change my view that the way he plays will also track players as seen by the sheer volume of injuries his team have had. And before you then say, he has managed it better, the factor of more games played has to be there
 
Finney Is Back said:
'play with no centre halves'. That has been Davies' position this season. Gray has also played most of his games there.

The league doesn't matter a jot for us any more this season. We're basically fighting for 11th to 17th place. Who cares where we finish out of those possible positions?

All that matters is the Europa. Perfectly sensible to take Romero off when he did and also for him to not risk VDV today, especially as both played on Thursday.
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it might have be their positions due to injuries this season but it’s not their actual position and you had a natural centre back on the bench. If you weren’t going to risk him then don’t have him on the bench.

We have been abysmal defensively, it was 0-0 and that substitution wasn’t too Fulham winning the game.
Ange isn’t good enough to make those type of cute descisions and get away.

Get out clause to say the league is over and put everything into Europa, this manager isn’t good enough to dial in one off performances in the Europa and switch off in the league.

It’s another bad decision from someone who has proved adept at them
 
El Dante said:
We can’t make so many changes and expect the team to find any level of consistency. How many teams make 6 or 7 changes from one match to the next and can expect the team to play at anywhere close to best level? We need to find consistency right now to improve and yet because players are finding their fitness and we don’t want to overplay others we make huge changes and then look all over the place.

We need a core team and then make two or three changes but right now it seems that we’re not in a position to do that. So we will struggle to find any consistency or stability.
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Fully agree
Huge challenge
And I believe it’s Ange trying to get players match sharp and into form
He said it afterwards about Bissouma and me too ed his confidence. You dint fix that by not playing but then it comes down to the player
 
Bedfordspurs said:
They have, playing once a week
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Injuries only occur if you play twice a week? Number of games played has nothing to do with it? Ok then.

Bedfordspurs said:
Huijsen wasn’t even first choice at the start of the season
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Still managed 27 appearances this season uninjured.

Bedfordspurs said:
The more games they are okaying now, the worse their form is getting results wise
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They are; but unlike us they do not have a deep squad. So the number of games is concentrated among fewer players. Iraola would have a bigger squad at Spurs and so more rotation.
 
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Robspur12 said:
Injuries only come if you play twice a week? Number of games played has nothing to do with it? Ok then.


Still managed 27 appearances this season uninjured.


They are; but unlike us they do not have a deep squad. So the number of games is concentrated among fewer players. Iraola would have a bigger squad at Spurs and so more rotation.
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We would soon sort that stat out if he signed for Spurs...look at Solanke
 
Robspur12 said:
Injuries only occur if you play twice a week? Number of games played has nothing to do with it? Ok then.


Still managed 27 appearances this season uninjured.


They are; but unlike us they do not have a deep squad. So the number of games is concentrated among fewer players. Iraola would have a bigger squad at Spurs and so more rotation.
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I’ve never said injuries happen because you play play twice a week. They have played once a week and had a lot of injuries
But they still haven’t played anywhere near as many games as us
And haven’t been playing twice a week
That the facts
And we don’t know how he would deal with it considering his intensity and the injuries they have got are very similar to anges
 
Robspur12 said:
Yes because winning creates momentum. Imho it's very hard to pick yourself up from a loss to a win. Plus performance in the league should be the basis for judging the competence of a manager.
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Thank feck that the 3 promoted teams are such utter garbage this season, as we’ve been the worst of the rest since clocks went back last October… roll on the spring!

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First time I'd watched us in a while. Thought we were more defensively set up (at least in the first half) which is what many of us wanted. Problem was we couldn't threaten them at all. Second half we were more attacking and duly got pulled apart on the break... Bissouma was miserable. Romero charging about trying to break people, he's like one of those hateful, pumped up, Alsatians who you have to walk past frequently in the local area. Actually enjoyed Bassey tossing him to the ground. Any smart, hard working team will beat us easily, there's no passion in our ranks. Frankfurt are fifth in the Bundesliga last time I checked, I can't see us getting past them.
 
El Dante said:
We can’t make so many changes and expect the team to find any level of consistency. How many teams make 6 or 7 changes from one match to the next and can expect the team to play at anywhere close to best level? We need to find consistency right now to improve and yet because players are finding their fitness and we don’t want to overplay others we make huge changes and then look all over the place.

We need a core team and then make two or three changes but right now it seems that we’re not in a position to do that. So we will struggle to find any consistency or stability.
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That's all well and good and agree . But then I go back to. I'm pretty sure we are the only team that injured an entire team in one go for 3 months straight.

So either Ange tactics helped with that or we unlucky.

And or our health team and preparation and training are so bad that we are unable to stem the injures.

Lack of rotation at beginning of season and ignoring others until he had to play them. We have had players who played for previous teams and not been taken out until they come here.

Use of youngsters and treatment (ignoring gray and berg) hasn't been great. Back to decision making.

The general brickshow has been under his watch and not all of it has been "unlucky"
 
I don't even watching how we play, even when we scrap a win. I did like 3rd goal at Az. But even then I wasn't losing my head in joy. Cos i know that's a rarity.

If Ange isn't going to take stock on how we got here and adapt and thinks it's all just unlucky. And believes his coaches are fine, physio are fine and everyone just needs time to get on board with the plan.....then the sooner he goes the better
 
What I don't understand is why our rebuild is special and that it means that we should be ok with potentially ending the season in 15th.

Every manager at every club when he comes in oversees one, turnover of playing staff and tactical changes, I've never known it to be an acceptable reason for a team to drop 9/10 places in the league.
 
fernadez said:
What I don't understand is why our rebuild is special and that it means that we should be ok with potentially ending the season in 15th.

Every manager at every club when he comes in oversees one, turnover of playing staff and tactical changes, I've never known it to be an acceptable reason for a team to drop 9/10 places in the league.
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Injuries are the reason argued for our poor performance this season i think rather than the rebuild? At least since it's become obvious that Gray & Bergvall are actually supremely talented and don't need Championship loans before being ready
 
Muttley said:
They're all Mr Hindsights on MOTD. They can't possibly be scrutinising Ange after 26 years of being a manager.
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That is so far from what he said. I genuinely don’t know how you’ve got to that. He said he doesn’t have a problem with critical analysis.

The analysis is damning and a pretty good feel on what I watched for 90 minutes (often MOTD isn’t).
 
billyiddo said:
Injuries are the reason argued for our poor performance this season i think rather than the rebuild? At least since it's become obvious that Gray & Bergvall are actually supremely talented and don't need Championship loans before being ready
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Loans are well and good if a player isn't ready but, in my opinion, there's no substitute to testing them at the level you want them to play at. In England, people think being sent on loan for four or five years is a mandatory step in any player's development. Maybe it is in England, because the Premier League is such a demanding competition. I can't say for sure. But pretty much everywhere else in Europe (bar maybe in Italy), if you're good enough, you're old enough.
 
tommysvr said:
That is so far from what he said. I genuinely don’t know how you’ve got to that. He said he doesn’t have a problem with critical analysis.

The analysis is damning and a pretty good feel on what I watched for 90 minutes (often MOTD isn’t).
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MOTD2 does great analysis
MOTD… not really IMO
 
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