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Climate Change

One thing that has been puzzling me, is where is the sea level rise? We have had some ice melt and some erosion of coastal areas, but only tiny amounts. Is it more complex than scientists can model, or is it too subtle now to make a big difference? The biggest issue is the trend and potential for greater sea level rises to come? Was thermal expansion also supposed to be a thing - a warmer climate and warmer seas taking up more space?

This article outlines the large glacier the size of Britain - the West Antarctic ice sheet - is starting to split apart. Which could see half a meter or more of sea-level rise. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-doomsday-glacier-in-antarctica-with-concern

You can look up what that would look like for you here:

https://www.floodmap.net/

If the glacier melts and releases other glaciers too, some estimates forsee a 7m rise in sea level. When putting that into the map, Spurs (and my house) are less than half a mile from the coast :) 10 meters of sea-level rise, and the sea would apparently stop at Park Lane with the stadium right next to the sea. Wet Spam are sunk with a 7-meter rise in Stratford...so not all bad then.
 
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SpurMeUp said:
One thing that has been puzzling me, is where is the sea level rise? We have had some ice melt and some erosion of coastal areas, but only tiny amounts. Is it more complex than scientists can model, or is it too subtle now to make a big difference? The biggest issue is the trend and potential for greater sea level rises to come? Was thermal expansion also supposed to be a thing - a warmer climate and warmer seas taking up more space?

This article outlines the large glacier the size of Britain - the West Antarctic ice sheet - is starting to split apart. Which could see half a meter or more of sea-level rise. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-doomsday-glacier-in-antarctica-with-concern

You can look up what that would look like for you here:

https://www.floodmap.net/

If the glacier melts and releases other glaciers too, some estimates forsee a 7m rise in sea level. When putting that into the map, Spurs (and my house) are less than half a mile from the coast :) 10 meters of sea-level rise, and the sea would apparently stop at Park Lane with the stadium right next to the sea. Wet Spam are sunk with a 7-meter rise in Stratford...so not all bad then.
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As usual the media will go full on drama scare story.

As far as i can tell less than a centimeter each year. https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14/

There are other problems with climate change and tipping points though. That will cause huge problems.

At the end of the day i really don't give a fudge about that. I'll be long gone. But if we can make the air cleaner, stop funding middle east terrorism or arseholes in the us, funding bigger arsehole politicians. Yay.
 
Lilbaz said:
As usual the media will go full on drama scare story.

As far as i can tell less than a centimeter each year. https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-14/

There are other problems with climate change and tipping points though. That will cause huge problems.

At the end of the day i really don't give a fudge about that. I'll be long gone. But if we can make the air cleaner, stop funding middle east terrorism or arseholes in the us, funding bigger arsehole politicians. Yay.
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I don't think its so much the media, just the complexity of modeling these things. Atmospheric chemistry, sea and glacier changes, are just super difficult to predict, even the best models are just guesswork. What is true is that glaciers are melting far quicker than even the more skeptical scientists thought they would. How that will impact coastal communities is unclear, but it does seem like there will be an impact. How ice - that was on land - turning into water, and how expanding water, plays out is unclear, but I think it is safe to say coastal communities will feel an impact. I don't know when. Or how profound it will be. And science doesn't know either. We can guesstimate, but that is all it is.
 
What a bunch of Dachevs. Boris maybe a lot of things including being passive when he needs to get his elbows out...but his party are far worse!


Boris Johnson blows cold on onshore wind faced with 100-plus rebel MPs
Opposition in cabinet as well as on backbenches to expansion of turbines in England widely seen as an eyesore

Pro-green cabinet ministers are frustrated by Boris Johnson’s decision to back away from ambitious onshore windfarm plans for England, as it emerged more than 100 Tory MPs are lobbying against the policy behind the scenes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...on-onshore-wind-faced-with-100-plus-rebel-mps
 
SpurMeUp said:
What a bunch of Dachevs. Boris maybe a lot of things including being passive when he needs to get his elbows out...but his party are far worse!


Boris Johnson blows cold on onshore wind faced with 100-plus rebel MPs
Opposition in cabinet as well as on backbenches to expansion of turbines in England widely seen as an eyesore

Pro-green cabinet ministers are frustrated by Boris Johnson’s decision to back away from ambitious onshore windfarm plans for England, as it emerged more than 100 Tory MPs are lobbying against the policy behind the scenes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...on-onshore-wind-faced-with-100-plus-rebel-mps
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We don't need onshore these days with the new floating offshore. Why tinkle off the nimbys?
 
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