I have not sheepishly gone anywhere, I explained clearly my feelings and where they come from. You can try and shame people by using terms like "prejudice" or you could accept that many fans have managed to build a profile of certain fan groups in the country based on their actions. For example I have a certain view about Chelsea fans because of the abuse I have seen first hand of them hissing fans and still to this day mention of Hitler etc.
People are not "Frothing" they are calling things for what they are and thats an abuse of the system to get into games without tickets which has heightened what are testing situations at the best of times, aka the continental view of British football fans.
Anyone with Liverpools history trying to break into a game based on their history is a scumbag, I stand by that
I haven't tried to shame anyone nor used the term prejudice, again you're not acknowledging what I'm actually saying.
Exactly this, its not hard for people to understand this is the point, and no one is besmirching a whole are of people just the makings of their fanbase despite what splinter says.
This is a fanbase that has sent death threats to its star players and a victim of racial abuse at the hands of one of their players, who have broken into numerous games and caused all sorts of issues for the English game, but because some people, including the press feel we are at some kind of deficit with Liverpool still because of the 80s, it can't be mentioned. You could even argue todays memorial of Heysel was over shadowed because the club wanted to celebrate a returning team today...
There's a difference between not buying in to irrational hatred and trying to "shame people", interesting how you've now incorrectly accused me of a few things, solid defense mechanism s on display rather than having to actively think so props for that.
It's one thing to willfully misinterpret my views to feel cosy in your bubble but at least get my username right for the love of all that is holy.
And yep, of course Liverpool as a collective went out as a whole to disrespect the memorial of Heysel with their parade,with their own memorial of Heysel, the....utter scumbags as you put it.
"This is the fanbase that has sent death threats to" etc etc Jesus wept...Do you think Spurs fans only sent delightful poetry to Sol Campbell post arsenal move or do ya think maybe a few unhinged nutcases have written a few promises of violence, are we all psychos now? Or, just maybe, there's a lot of clams who follow football, and perhaps they're not exactly equally spread between the clubs equally.
"Anyone with Liverpools history trying to break into a game based on their history is a scumbag, I stand by that" - No fan should attempt to break in to a football game, the history of one club is relevant to the rest of the clubs as well and absolutely no one is arguing the case that people should attempt to break in to a game dude.