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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying

I'm surprised that he didn't describe it as 'magnificent', seems to be his favourite choice of words for all the other ****e.
 
Burnley somehow miss about 15 chances today and the cult scrape another one

they can have these, long term they do them more harm than good, as long as the powers that be think Brenton might have some idea what he's doing they won't replace him with a competent manager
 
they can have these, long term they do them more harm than good, as long as the powers that be think Brenton might have some idea what he's doing they won't replace him with a competent manager

Exactly, let Pool limp along to 8th/9th place, cry about the injury issues, give the cretin another 150M to **** away on useless players, write off another season.

Rodgers/Martinez have been found out, nothing special there, move along .. the longer their clubs support them, the better for us.
 
I always thought that Martinez benefited from picking up his team from Moyes. They had been coached to be resolute and defend well by moyes. Then Martinez comes in and coaches them to pass well, keep possesion and stretch teams. Now in his second season they are losing their defensive thinking from moyes and are getting opened up by a lot of teams at present.

As for Rodgers. For all his bleating about not doing a so called spurs he is doing a good impression of it. Lots of money spent on players who have not settled and also showing the team was carried by a superstar player that made all the difference. And for someone revered as a master coach who now admits Balotelli does not fit his system. That is masterful player buying then.
 
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I always thought that Martinez benefited from picking up his team from Moyes. They had been coached to be resolute and defend well by moyes. Then Martinez comes in and coaches them to pass well, keep possesion and stretch teams. Now in his second season they are losing their defensive thinking from moyes and are getting opened up by a lot of teams at present.

As for Rodgers. For all his bleating about not doing a so called spurs he is doing a good impression of it. Lots of money spent on players who have not settled and also showing the team was carried by a superstar player that made all the difference. And for someone revered as a master coach who now admits Balotelli does not fit his system. That is masterful player buying then.

I seem to recall the knob head saying signing Balotelli wasn't a gamble, and that he only signed players that would fit the system and they way "they" want to play fotball....
 
http://thepremierleagueowl.com/why-football-continues-to-revel-in-liverpools-2014-stumble/

We’re in list season. Over the next forty-eight hours, you can expect plenty of Top Tens, Best & Worsts, and Year in Reviews as 2014 draws to a close.

It’s time to be nostalgic.

Looking back on the last twelve months of domestic football, there really was no more dramatic moment than the Steven Gerrard incident at Anfield at the end of April. The sporting repercussions of Gerrard’s untimely loss of balance have been debated and satirised to death, and there’s really no need for it to be explored any further.

What does remain interesting, though, is the supporter reaction to Liverpool’s demise. Eight months later, rival fans are still celebrating that capitulation and the same schadenfreude-laden chanting is still being aimed at Gerrard. One suspects that it will be that way for a while.

Liverpool are a very large club and their impressive collection of domestic and continental trophies naturally provokes a lot of envy. Their supporters enjoyed sustained, decadent success for a long period of time and, as is always the case, that facilitated a sense of superiority which lingers to this day – and which continues to rub opposing supporters the wrong way.

So, yes, watching Liverpool fail was always likely to draw a cynical smile from the community at large. In that instance, though, that wasn’t the only force at work.

The majority of us support losing clubs and are therefore hard-wired to live vicariously through the failure of superior teams. Liverpool in the 70s and 80s, Manchester United in the 1990s, and a combination of United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project from the turn of the Millennium to the present day; we’ve all pointed and laughed when events have transpired against those sides.

Ordinarily it’s a fleeting joy. We like those kind of failures without really loving or indulging in them – but Liverpool’s 2013/14 bucked that trend: it prompted an eight-month long street-party in every corner of the country. The hilarity has been far more sustained and the glee that much more pronounced.

Rather than rivalry, this has its roots in the growing irritation with the way the game is covered.

When Liverpool’s run of form began, they very quickly became the neutral’s favourite to win the title. They had a British manager, a collection of young English players performing to a high standard, and they were stylistically very appealing. At the time, they seemed to be the product of old fashioned values like coaching and fearlessness, and they provided a refreshing contrast to the ‘spend to win’ model which so frequently dominates the Premier League.

Of course, that was an illusion. Liverpool were no plucky underdog and in reality they were a expensively assembled squad with an enormous wage bill and a world-class Uruguayan forward. Importantly, though, the context said otherwise.

Maybe ‘neutral’s favourite’ is too strong a term, but they were certainly a lesser of all the evils.

Through January, February and March, they enjoyed a lot of goodwill. In a three-way race with Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project, they were rightly seen as the underdog and their surge in form threatened to upset the status quo. Bizarre feeling though it was, Liverpool briefly became the everyman club.

“If they can do this, why not my Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham, Saudi Sportswashing Machine side…”

That common bond didn’t last. When the championship started to become a possibility, the mythologising quickly followed. There was a period between March and April when the sepia-tinted wistfulness became very overbearing and during which the ‘heroic, brave Liverpool’ storyline was thrust too far down the public’s throat.

Eventually there’s a gag reflex.

Narrative-creation is one of the Premier League’s biggest evils. The competition is so dominant in this country, that a news cycle has to be manufactured to satiate interest in the sport. Banal details are dwelled upon for days at a time, trivialities are debated to the point of madness. In Liverpool’s case, they became ‘the story’. Every kick of the ball was lovingly described, every goal was a manifestation of someone’s genius; from the television, to the newspapers, to the internet and across social media, the whole football world melted into a fawning mess.

There’s only so much hyperbole that can be tolerated. Liverpool were presented in a very righteous and deserving way and, whether justifiably or not, that started to irritate the average fan.

Steven Gerrard is a peerless captain.

Anfield boasts an unparalleled atmosphere.

Brendan Rodgers is reinventing the wheel.

Again and again and again. It was too much – there are only so many times you, as a supporter, can listen to all the supposed reasons why someone else’s club is superior to your own and why their victories carry a greater resonance.

We’re detached from this now, of course, but should you want a reminder of how self-indulgent this became, then Google one of the two-dozen books that were written – from a Liverpool perspective – about the 2013/14 season. There’s nothing inherently wrong with fans celebrating quasi-success, but the volume of output is a stark reminder of just how complete the saturation was.

The celebration of that 2-0 loss to Chelsea was – and still is – the manifestation of mass-relief. Sure, for Manchester United and Emirates Marketing Project supporters it’s probably more rivalry-related, but for the rest of the population it represented the righteous pricking of something which had grown far too large.

Similarly, while plenty of animosity towards Steven Gerrard, the derision he faces now isn’t really directed at him. Gerrard the football player is a relatively bland, unobjectionable character, but Gerrard the rhetoric-fueled superhero is very antagonising.

The 27th April 2014 was a great day. Not because Liverpool tripped so spectacularly over themselves, but because that was the moment when all the hot air came rushing, mercifully, out of the over-inflated balloon
 
it's a good read

I take issue with some of it though, I've never felt that way towards United or Chelsea, and as for gerrard, my derision is wholely aimed at him, there are very few players I find more objectionable, in fact that list contains 1 name that rhymes with Jol
 
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