Yermiyahu
Scott Parker
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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying
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hows that then ??
unless im mistaken you are saying that : it doesn't matter in which order you play your fixtures over the length of a season because you have to play each team twice
is that what you are saying because that is most definitely not a correct statement, the order in which your fixtures are played has a bearing on the results you will pick up. players/teams aren't robots who perform to the same levels every time they play - there are a million different things that can effect a teams performance - and the fixtures (and the order of those fixtures) will effect them and the outcome
it's pretty simple logic really
unless im mistaken you are saying that : it doesn't matter in which order you play your fixtures over the length of a season because you have to play each team twice
is that what you are saying because that is most definitely not a correct statement, the order in which your fixtures are played has a bearing on the results you will pick up. players/teams aren't robots who perform to the same levels every time they play - there are a million different things that can effect a teams performance - and the fixtures (and the order of those fixtures) will effect them and the outcome
it's pretty simple logic really
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Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
There's no point, he believes what he believes. It's a lost cause, just leave him to it.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I was near the back at Hillboro, and being a youth had managed to find my way onto of a crush barrier, so from what I saw, the old bill realized it was bad and let people onto the pitch to relieve the pressure...@ QPR i don't remember what stopped it other than people screaming 'help'...i crossed my arms in front of my chest and just remember looking straight ahead into some bloke's beige colored coat as my face got slowly pressed into it. The pressure was pretty great and if my arms hadn't been there I'd have been in trouble...the crowd was surging back and forth, and as it went back at one point, I took my cue to backwards shove until I had wriggled my way to an exit. Hillsboro was bad, but personally speaking, those few minutes at Loftus Rd were the dodgiest...
This is what I said, regarding the importance of the order of games:
It doesnt make a difference no.
We have to play every team, just like they do.
If we continue to take enough points off everyone else, it doesnt matter if we play Man U, Liverpool, arse, Chelsea, City twice each in a row.
3pts are 3pts. We could lose to all them, and still win the league over 38 games.
To which you said:
You are wrong
I then showed you a sequence of games where we played arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and City, within a 3wk period, and took 9pts.
I also showed you a sequence of games where we played Blackpool, Wolves, West Ham and Wigan in a row, and took 3pts.
Please, show how I am wrong, because your last attempt didnt make any sense, and I have just shown you games, which show that I wasnt wrong.
And there we have it:
Im incorrect and wrong? Care to expalin the sequence of games then, and points taken.
Did the order of games matter?
thfcsteff
George Hunt
The old away end at Loftus Road was one uncovered terrace...that was what I meant.
Totman -
i was replying to you saying "it doesn't make a difference, no" in response to "So you don't think the order the fixtures are in makes a difference, ok."
to highlight how you was wrong i tried to show how a team would approach games differently depending on the run in they had (which i was hoping you would see could be applied to our fixture run in compared to another side and how it differs and would/could effect the reults we might get/they might get) what you've replied with : Are you saying that if we play arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and City within three weeks, we would pick up less points than if we played Blackpool, Wolves, West Ham and Wigan in a row?, doesn't make sense to me and i don't see the point you are trying to make with it.
i was replying to you saying "it doesn't make a difference, no" in response to "So you don't think the order the fixtures are in makes a difference, ok."
to highlight how you was wrong i tried to show how a team would approach games differently depending on the run in they had (which i was hoping you would see could be applied to our fixture run in compared to another side and how it differs and would/could effect the reults we might get/they might get) what you've replied with : Are you saying that if we play arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and City within three weeks, we would pick up less points than if we played Blackpool, Wolves, West Ham and Wigan in a row?, doesn't make sense to me and i don't see the point you are trying to make with it.
Its a clear point which shows that I am not wrong when it comes to the order of games (as in a tough run in a row) making no difference in the long run, to a run of games against "lesser teams".
Its a very clear point I am making. I have not said anyone else is wrong, but those who say I am wrong still fail to explain, why the sequence of games I showed, had no bearing on points gained.
Its a very clear point I am making. I have not said anyone else is wrong, but those who say I am wrong still fail to explain, why the sequence of games I showed, had no bearing on points gained.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Dalglish acts like every question he is asked in an interview is a stupid one. And his catchphrase seems to be "well it doesn't matter what I think', well it actually does Kenny because your the Liverpool manager.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
oh my, you have found one instance of us doing well in a hard sequence of fixtures and one instance of us doing badly against a sequence of easier fixtures. This obviously generalises to the entirety of all fixtures ever. How dare i question you in any way shape or form.
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It still shows that I am not wrong though doesnt it. It still happened and it made no difference. You still havent shown me a sequence which backs up your theory though have you.
I dont think the order of games matter. A professional always takes the next game as the most important...not the the next 4. Yes, a tough run is just that, BUT it doesnt put us at any disadvantage. We dont play any more difficult teams than any one else.
In the long run, it deoesnt matter.
Billyiddo pointed out that there are a million factors which affect results. I agree. What he didnt seem to realize, is that saying that actually gives MY argument more weight than his.
I believe that this run of tough fixtures will have no difference in our points tally come the end of the season. I dont believe that the fact we played City and Liverpool so close was the reason we only yielded 1pt from those games. I think there were a million other factors, but proximity of the fixtures wasnt one of them.
Your last line makes you look like a pathetic hypocrite. I disagree, get over it. I have not said that anyone is wrong (unlike you and bilyiddo). Yet you have the nerve to act like IM the one being arrogant.
I still havent read one decent argument from you, no justification of your stance, no examples...NOTHING.
I dont think the order of games matter. A professional always takes the next game as the most important...not the the next 4. Yes, a tough run is just that, BUT it doesnt put us at any disadvantage. We dont play any more difficult teams than any one else.
In the long run, it deoesnt matter.
Billyiddo pointed out that there are a million factors which affect results. I agree. What he didnt seem to realize, is that saying that actually gives MY argument more weight than his.
I believe that this run of tough fixtures will have no difference in our points tally come the end of the season. I dont believe that the fact we played City and Liverpool so close was the reason we only yielded 1pt from those games. I think there were a million other factors, but proximity of the fixtures wasnt one of them.
Your last line makes you look like a pathetic hypocrite. I disagree, get over it. I have not said that anyone is wrong (unlike you and bilyiddo). Yet you have the nerve to act like IM the one being arrogant.
I still havent read one decent argument from you, no justification of your stance, no examples...NOTHING.
DanishWhite
Jason Dozzell
I know people who went for the finals and know for a FACT that Liverpool fans tried to rush - flashmob style - the entry areas in at least 2 places. The peolpe I know who went saw it with their own eyes.
What else happened down there, including mugging kids and elderlies for tickets down there, is documented else where.
Anyone who argue Hillsborough was a Liverpool coincidence, fine with me. But I still argue that even modern day Liverscum fans have a victimising complex, which makes them do scummy and even dangerous things even to this day.
I wouldn't miss them one bit. Sad they didn't go down last year after Roy.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
So lets say a newly promoted side starts off their campaign against Man united, Emirates Marketing Project, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Us, Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Sunderland. The odds of them coming away from any of those matches with point is minimal, but not impossible. However When they have finished against those sides they will have a definitive place in the table, i don't think you'd disagree that they are likely to be in last place.
What kind of affect does being at the bottom of the table have? Would be pretty disheartening to be at the bottom of the table. Yes you may have played the bigger sides, but the pressure is on you to pick up the points from the sides you should be beating just to get out of those bottom three.
Lets look at it the other way.
Newly promoted side(1) with the fixture list against newly promoted side (2), blackburn, Bolton, Man united, Wigan, newly promoted side (3), Liverpool. The odds of them coming away from those matches with points is much greater, in fact they may even win a couple of them, having a huge affect on the squad morale and giving them far more confidence to get out and play against the bigger sides making them far more likely to get something from them. A team with these fixtures would be far less likely to be bottom of the table, they'd probably even be out of the relegation zone compared to the original assumption.
Being out of the relegation zone has got to boost morale somewhat, especially seeing as that is your season requirement. You still have some of the big teams to play, but your confidence is pretty high, so you'll actually go out and play against them and might even nick a point or three.
The fixture list will have a huge affect on the confidence and on the morale of the squad.