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The best album of the 90's - In Utero vs Californication

Which is the better album?


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milo

Jack L. Jones
In the heavyweight bout of the round Nirvana take on the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Only one can be victorious but who will it be?

Nirvana - In Utero

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In Utero is the third and final studio album by the American rock band Nirvana, released on September 21, 1993, by DGC Records. Nirvana intended the record to diverge significantly from the polished production of its previous album, Nevermind (1991). To capture a more abrasive and natural sound, the group hired engineer Steve Albini to record In Utero during a two-week period in February 1993 at Pachyderm Studio in Cannon Falls, Minnesota. The music was recorded quickly with few studio embellishments, and the song lyrics and album packaging incorporated medical imagery that conveyed frontman Kurt Cobain's outlook on his publicized personal life and his band's newfound fame.

Soon after recording was completed, rumors circulated in the press that DGC might not release the album in its original state, as the record label felt that the result was not commercially viable. Although Nirvana publicly denied the statements, the group was not fully satisfied with the sound Albini had captured. Albini declined to alter the album further, and ultimately the band hired R.E.M. producerScott Litt to make minor changes to the album's sound and remix the singles "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies".

Upon release, In Utero entered the Billboard 200 chart at number one and received critical acclaim as a drastic departure fromNevermind. The record has been certified five times platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America, and has sold 15 million copies worldwide.[2]

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Californication is the seventh studio album by American rock band Red Hot Chili Peppers. It was released on June 8, 1999,[2] onWarner Bros. Records and was produced by Rick Rubin. Californication marked the return of John Frusciante, who had previously appeared on Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar Sex Magik, to replace Dave Navarro as the band's guitarist. Frusciante's return was credited with changing the band's sound altogether, producing a notable shift in style from the music recorded with Navarro. The album's subject material incorporated various sexual innuendos commonly associated with the band, but also contained more varied themes than previous outings, including lust, death, contemplations of suicide, California, drugs, globalization, and travel.

Californication is the Chili Peppers' most commercially successful studio release internationally, with over 15 million copies sold worldwide,[3] and more than 5 million in the United States alone.[4] As of 2002, the album had sold over 4 million copies in Europe.[5]The record produced several hits for the band, including "Otherside", "Californication" and the Grammy Award-winning "Scar Tissue".Californication peaked at number three on the U.S. Billboard 200. The record marked a significant change in style for the band:Rolling Stone's Greg Tate noted that "while all previous Chili Peppers projects have been highly spirited, Californication dares to be spiritual and epiphanic".[6]
 
Californication is the blandest album ever. The other one is Nirvana. No vote from me.

It is a shame that Jamiroquai didn't make it through because I would have asked whether (other than the Police) has there ever been such a big band that had so little influence on other acts? Thinking about it here, maybe the Chili Peppers trump them both.
 
Has to be In Utero. Nirvana's best IMO.

I can understand why some people of a certain musical persuasion can like Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but there's no excuse for listening to MOR brick like Californication - it's another album for people who don't like music.
 
Has to be In Utero. Nirvana's best IMO.

I can understand why some people of a certain musical persuasion can like Blood Sugar Sex Magik, but there's no excuse for listening to MOR bricke like Californication - it's another album for people who don't like music.

Music for Mondeo drivers
 
In Utero, my favourite Nirvana album and lyrically their best. Also Heart Shaped Box is my favourite melody line, riff and song of all time.




Sitting on my porcelain throne using Fapatalk
 
Music for Mondeo drivers
I was just going to say it's Soccer Mom in their SUV on the commute to work music

(And to be fair, if you've ever had to experience NorCal radio suddenly it becomes a hella good album)

In Utero is brick too - two good songs and then Kurt Cobain being a bad Kurt Cobain tribute act
 
Everyone seems to hate Californication, who put it forward in the first place?

I demand a witch hunt.

Me! All of your comments are fair enough, but I felt it deserved a nomination if some of the other dross was being nominated

I still love fleas baselines even if the lyrics on this album are pure nonsense

And In Utero, imo, is lame.....


Different strokes for different folks
 
Me! All of your comments are fair enough, but I felt it deserved a nomination if some of the other dross was being nominated

I still love fleas baselines even if the lyrics on this album are pure nonsense

And In Utero, imo, is lame.....


Different strokes for different folks
Go stroke yourself! :p
 
Me! All of your comments are fair enough, but I felt it deserved a nomination if some of the other dross was being nominated

I still love fleas baselines even if the lyrics on this album are pure nonsense

And In Utero, imo, is lame.....


Different strokes for different folks
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I like Californication :cool:

Otherside, Scar Tissue, Emit Remmus, This Velvet Glove and Purple Stain are all great tracks
 
In fairness to RHCP I really didn't like the bass-line-driven funk of Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar Sex Magic, nor the bland Californication and the awful video attached to it which played endlessly on MTV at the time.

But I do really admire John Frusciante's guitar work and thought "By The Way" was a good album with some great songs... just a really rubbish title!
Also "Stadium Arcadium" had some really great songs, but didn't need to be a double album.
I thought "I'm with You" was a real drop in quality but The Getaway has some good bits but I've not listened to it much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Way#Track_listing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_Arcadium#Track_listing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers#Discography
 

In Utero is the third and final studio album by the American rock band Nirvana, released on September 21, 1993, by DGC Records. Nirvana intended the record to diverge significantly from the polished production of its previous album, Nevermind (1991). To capture a more abrasive and natural sound, the group hired engineer Steve Albini ..... Albini declined to alter the album further, and ultimately the band hired R.E.M. producerScott Litt to make minor changes to the album's sound and remix the singles "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies".

Upon release, In Utero entered the Billboard 200 chart at number one and received critical acclaim as a drastic departure fromNevermind.
I find this interesting as I always felt Bleach was the most raw... then Nevermind was just a blisteringly brilliant and raw album... then it felt like they had sold out by the time In Utero came along, that freak b*tch Courtney Love was on the scene and the album sounded much softer to me... yet others tell me it is more abrasive.
 
I find this interesting as I always felt Bleach was the most raw... then Nevermind was just a blisteringly brilliant and raw album... then it felt like they had sold out by the time In Utero came along, that freak b*tch Courtney Love was on the scene and the album sounded much softer to me... yet others tell me it is more abrasive.

Bleach was the most raw in terms of circumstance. $600, knocking all tracks out in a day etc. In Utero was very much a middle-finger at what was expected of them post-Nevermind, to the point where there needed to be a note in the liner notes about suitable treble and bass settings for your hi-fi when playing it back! Plus they were purposefully trying to make the writing more abrasive and with less of the 'pop sensibilities'. I think there was a real back and forth with Geffen on the polish quality and what songs were to make up the album. I mentioned earlier, lyrically I find it superb, Cobain's strongest in my opinion.

Also said that Heart Shaped Box is my favourite all time track. The story goes that Kurt was helping Love to write the next Hole album, and started working on HSB, but then covertly kept it for himself when he realised how strong it could be, much to her ire!!
 
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